The Blažević Archive
113 contradictions the tree makes with itself

What Cannot Be True

No register was needed for any of these. They are things in one record that cannot all be true at once — a mother who died before her children were born, a woman married eight years after her own death, a man recorded as a woman under a name this archive gives to forty-seven men. Checking a tree against itself is the cheapest research there is, and it had never been done here.

This page exists because of Tereza Pećanić. She is a direct ancestor, and this archive published her as having died before 1850 — while the same record married her in 1858 and gave her children until 1884. Nothing external was needed to see it. Her own page contradicted itself, and it had done so for as long as the site existed.

So tools/consistency.py now reads every person in this archive against themselves and against their own family: births after deaths, marriages before births, parents younger than their children — and, since 17 September, a recorded sex against a given name that this archive's own records show is overwhelmingly one sex. It finds 113.

By how bad

Impossible35
Very doubtful52
Worth a look26

Impossible means the dates are firm and still conflict. Very doubtful means one of them is hedged — ABT, BEF — so the conflict may be an artefact of the hedge.

By kind

A recorded sex the name contradicts26
A child born after the parent died25
A parent under thirteen19
A parent aged thirteen to sixteen19
A child born before the parent10
A mother over fifty6
Died before being born2
Married after dying2
Two generations in too few years1
Married before being born1
Married as a child1
Lived past a hundred and five1
Added 13 September 2026

Sixty-three rows are not sixty-three mistakes

Every row above is a symptom. One wrong parent link reports once per child, so the page was counting its own consequences — and worse, it was listing four quite different things as though they were one. Grouping by pivot person and by cause, the 113 rows collapse to 86 distinct mistakes.

Kind of mistakeCausesRowsWhat it means
A contradiction in the record 29 42 The dates as written cannot both be true. This is the only kind that is really a finding about the past rather than about the tree.
A wrong link 4 8 Too far apart for any slop in the dates. The join is wrong, not the dates — usually a reused name, or two people merged.
A generation skipped 10 15 The parent is barely older than the child, because a grandparent has been recorded as a parent.
A sex and a name that disagree 26 26 The recorded sex contradicts a given name that this archive's own records show is overwhelmingly one sex. Which of the two fields is wrong is not decided here.
Not an error at all 17 22 A hedged date (BEF, AFT, Maybe) sitting against a firm one. The hedge is doing its job.

The distinction matters because only one of these five is a finding about the past. A wrong link, a skipped generation and a sex that fights its own name are findings about this tree, and a hedged date conflicting with a firm one is not a finding at all — it is the hedge working as intended. Presenting them in one undifferentiated list of “contradictions” overstated the first and slandered the last.

A contradiction in the record — 29

The dates as written cannot both be true. This is the only kind that is really a finding about the past rather than about the tree.

WhoRowsThe contradiction
Anna 1 born 1809, but Nicolaus Nicolai Kraljich born 1807
Antonia Sestan 1 born 11 FEB 1847, died 4 AUG 1846
Antonius Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich 1 died 1832, but Catharina born 1847
Budimir Boras 1 died 20 MAR 1954, but Vladimira Boras born 1960
Elias Ilija Žubrinić Xubrinich 1 died 1845, but Helena Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1847
Hector Defranceschi — no page 1 born 22 JAN 1896, married 16 FEB 1835
Helena 3 died 1828, but Eva Untersinger born 1839 … and 2 more like it
Joannes Ivan Boras 1 died 1926, but Blazenka? Boras born 1930
Josephus Josip Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich 1 died 1825, but Joannes Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich born 1844
Luka Katnic — no page 2 died 10 DEC 1755, but Margaretha Jankovic born 1757 … and 1 more like it
Maria 1 died 1845, but Magdalena Žubrinić born 1847
Maria 4 died 1831, but Stephanus Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1833 … and 3 more like it
Maria Catharina Orešković Oreskovic 1 born 8 SEP 1835, but Nicolaus "Nikola" Žubrinić (Xubrinic) born 1834
Maria Nelida Purtscher Dibar — no page 1 born 2024, died 2009
Michael "Mate" Žubrinić / Zubrinic / Xubrinich 1 died 1863, but Nikola Žubrinić (Xubrinic) born 1880
Pasquina Giovanna Figoni — no page 1 died 1870, married 15 SEP 1902
Phillipus Žubrinić 1 died 1845, but Magdalena Žubrinić born 1847
Vladimira Baricevic 8 born 12 DEC 1907, but Andjelika Boras born 1888 … and 7 more like it
Hellena Bellobalbic — no page 1 born 1868, married 1868 — age 0
Anton Kljapo Blažević 1 born 2 MAY 1824, Anton Martin (Tone) Blažević born 1840 — age 16
Catharina 1 born 5 AUG 1784, Joannes Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich born 1844 — age 60
George Untersinger 1 born 25 MAR 1787, Rosalia Untersinger born 1802 — age 15
Johannes / Giovanni Gian Battista "Ivan / John" de Franceschi — no page 1 born 1750, Giuseppe / Josephus "Joseph" Defranceschi born 1765 — age 15
Marica Milkovic 1 born 1904, Vladimira Boras born 1960 — age 56
Marija Šojat 1 born 13 MAR 1825, Anton Martin (Tone) Blažević born 1840 — age 15
Matia Sekula 1 born 1810, Martha Žubrinić Zubrinic born 1861 — age 51
Ruzica Petrovic — no page 1 born 1868, Ivana Jovanovic born 1881 — age 13
Stane Blažević 1 born 1860, Luce born 1876 — age 16
Ursula Kovačina — no page 1 born 28 FEB 1895, Josip Petar "Pepo/Pepe" Defranceski born 1911 — age 16

A wrong link — 4

Too far apart for any slop in the dates. The join is wrong, not the dates — usually a reused name, or two people merged.

WhoRowsThe contradiction
Domianus "Domian" Perpić 1 died 1888, but Georgius Prpic born 1962
Ivan de Franceschi — no page 4 died 27 MAR 1896, but Anamarija Anisija Franceschi born 1938 … and 3 more like it
Maria Sojath 2 died 1891, but Georgius Prpic born 1962 … and 1 more like it
Gregorius Gregory Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich 1 born 12 MAR 1785, died 1896 — age 111

A generation skipped — 10

The parent is barely older than the child, because a grandparent has been recorded as a parent.

WhoRowsThe contradiction
Anna 3 born 1809, Mattheus Kraljich born 1812 — age 3 … and 2 more like it
Domenica Defranceschi — no page 1 born 1830, Maria Defranceschi born 1833 — age 3
Franciscus Antonio Antonius Defranceschi — no page 1 born 13 APR 1785, Mattheus / Matio "Matolin" di Franceschi / Defranceski born 1794 — age 9
Magdalena Žubrinić 1 born 21 JUN 1812, Lucas Ugrin Adamich born 1822 — age 10
Maria Catharina Orešković Oreskovic 3 born 8 SEP 1835, Daniel Žubrinić born 1837 — age 2 … and 2 more like it
Marko Butkovic 1 born 1872, Antonija Butkovic born 1880 — age 8
Teresa Grach — no page 1 born 1753, Giuseppe / Josephus "Joseph" Defranceschi born 1765 — age 12
Vladimira Baricevic 2 born 12 DEC 1907, Zdenka Boras born 1907 — age 0 … and 1 more like it
Wolfgangus Volfgangus Adamic Adamich 1 born 30 AUG 1813, Lucas Ugrin Adamich born 1822 — age 9
ladislava (lada) bilubaric 1 born 11 JUN 1922, ante Boras born 1931 — age 9

A sex and a name that disagree — 26

The recorded sex contradicts a given name that this archive's own records show is overwhelmingly one sex. Which of the two fields is wrong is not decided here.

WhoRowsThe contradiction
Anna Grgurić — no page 1 recorded M; «Anna» is a form of ana, and 94 of the 94 other people here who bear it are women
Ante Blažević 1 recorded F; «Ante» is a form of ante, and 58 of the 60 other people here who bear it are men
Ante Pavelic 1 recorded F; «Ante» is a form of ante, and 58 of the 60 other people here who bear it are men
Ante Tomljanovic 1 recorded F; «Ante» is a form of ante, and 58 of the 60 other people here who bear it are men
Franciscum Papić (Papa) 1 recorded F; «Franciscum» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are men
Franciscus Grandic — no page 1 recorded F; «Franciscus» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 54 other people here who bear it are men
Franciscus Prpic 1 recorded F; «Franciscus» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are men
Franciscus Xubrinich 1 recorded F; «Franciscus» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are men
Frane Prpic 1 recorded F; «Frane» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are men
Ivan — no page 1 recorded F; «Ivan» is a form of ivan, and 124 of the 124 other people here who bear it are men
Ivana Blažević 1 recorded M; «Ivana» is a form of ivana, and 31 of the 33 other people here who bear it are women
Ivana Juhas — no page 1 recorded M; «Ivana» is a form of ivana, and 31 of the 34 other people here who bear it are women
Ivana Papić (Papa) 1 recorded M; «Ivana» is a form of ivana, and 31 of the 33 other people here who bear it are women
Joannam Papić (Papa) 1 recorded M; «Joannam» is a form of ivana, and 31 of the 33 other people here who bear it are women
Lucia Žubrinić Xubrinich 1 recorded M; «Lucia» is a form of lucija, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are women
Lucija Loncaric Papić (Papa) 1 recorded M; «Lucija» is a form of lucija, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are women
Maria Marija Kalanj 1 recorded M; «Maria» is a form of marija, and 192 of the 192 other people here who bear it are women
Michaël MIchael Kostelacz 1 recorded F; «Michaël» is a form of mihovil, and 49 of the 49 other people here who bear it are men
Michele C Defranceschi — no page 1 recorded F; «Michele» is a form of mihovil, and 49 of the 50 other people here who bear it are men
Nikola Kalanj 1 recorded F; «Nikola» is a form of nikola, and 36 of the 37 other people here who bear it are men
Nikula Zubrinic 1 recorded F; «Nikula» is a form of nikola, and 36 of the 37 other people here who bear it are men
Paolo Paula Eriavaz — no page 1 recorded F; «Paolo» is a form of pavao, and 26 of the 26 other people here who bear it are men
Peter De Franceschi — no page 1 recorded F; «Peter» is a form of petar, and 22 of the 23 other people here who bear it are men
Petrus Kalanj 1 recorded F; «Petrus» is a form of petar, and 22 of the 22 other people here who bear it are men
Stephanus Bujic — no page 1 recorded F; «Stephanus» is a form of stjepan, and 27 of the 27 other people here who bear it are men
Tonka Miletic — no page 1 recorded M; «Tonka» is a form of antonija, and 32 of the 32 other people here who bear it are women

Not an error at all — 17

A hedged date (BEF, AFT, Maybe) sitting against a firm one. The hedge is doing its job.

WhoRowsThe contradiction
Caetano Bacchi 1 born 12 January 1779 (Maybe), but through undated Oliva Andreana Bacchi the grandchild Oliva Maria Smojver is born 1781 — 2 years for two generations
Antonio de Franceschi — no page 1 died AFT 1926, but Bruno de Franceschi born 1939
Antonius Defranceschi — no page 2 born BEF 1815, Maria Maddalena Defranceschi born 1825 — age 10 … and 1 more like it
Joanis Grach — no page 1 born BEF 1750, Johanes Grach born 1762 — age 12
Natale Defranceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1830, Stella Appolonia Defranceschi born 1841 — age 11
Nicolai Žubrinić 1 born BEF 1769, Stephanus Stephani Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1769 — age 0
Tereza Pećanić 5 died BEF 1850, but Anton Blazevic born 1860 … and 4 more like it
Antonius Defranceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1745, Vitorio Defranceschi born 1758 — age 13
Franciscus Defranceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1855, Giovanni Joannes Baptista Defranceschi born 1869 — age 14
Giambattista De Franceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1765, Lucia De Franceschi born 1779 — age 14
Magdalena Defranceski — no page 1 born BEF 1845, Stephanus Bujic born 1859 — age 14
Maria Defranceski — no page 1 born BEF 1795, Josephus Premate born 1809 — age 14
Mattio Defranceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1690, Antonio Defranceschi born 1704 — age 14
Natale Defranceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1800, Angelo Defranceschi born 1815 — age 15
Simone De Franceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1760, Josef De Franceschi born 1775 — age 15
Vitorio Defranceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1720, Piero Anto Defranceschi born 1736 — age 16
Vittorio Vitorio Defranceschi — no page 1 born BEF 1795, Perina Defranceschi born 1810 — age 15

They are mostly one mistake, made repeatedly

Sort by person rather than by error and the shape appears at once: a woman attached as mother to a family she cannot have borne. Not scattered slips — the same slip, over and over, and almost always to a woman.

PersonContradictionsWhat is wrong
Vladimira Baricevic 10 born 12 DEC 1907, but Andjelika Boras born 1888
Maria 5 died 1845, but Magdalena Žubrinić born 1847
Tereza Pećanić 5 died BEF 1850, but Anton Blazevic born 1860
Ivan de Franceschi — no page 4 died 27 MAR 1896, but Anamarija Anisija Franceschi born 1938
Anna 4 born 1809, but Nicolaus Nicolai Kraljich born 1807
Maria Catharina Orešković Oreskovic 4 born 8 SEP 1835, but Nicolaus "Nikola" Žubrinić (Xubrinic) born 1834

The clearest case is not on the direct line at all

Vladimira Baricević, born 12 December 1907, is entered as the mother of ten Boras children born 1888 to 1911 — nine of them before she was born, one of them in the same month. She is not a doubtful reading or a loose date. She is somebody else's daughter married into the wrong generation, and every child hangs off her.

Which is exactly what happened to Maria Catharina Orešković — four children born when she was two, five and six, plus the son born the year before her. Question 4d worked that one out the slow way, from three parish registers. This check finds the same shape in seconds, without leaving the file.

Thirty-eight of the 113 sit on people with pages here. The rest are relatives who appear in someone's family list without a page of their own — still worth naming, because a wrong join is visible from both ends.

Impossible

Dates that are firm and still conflict

WhoWhat kindThe contradiction
Antonius Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich A child born after the parent died died 1832, but Catharina born 1847
Budimir Boras A child born after the parent died died 20 MAR 1954, but Vladimira Boras born 1960
Domianus "Domian" Perpić A child born after the parent died died 1888, but Georgius Prpic born 1962
Elias Ilija Žubrinić Xubrinich A child born after the parent died died 1845, but Helena Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1847
Helena A child born after the parent died died 1828, but Eva Untersinger born 1839
Ivan de Franceschi A child born after the parent died died 27 MAR 1896, but Anamarija Anisija Franceschi born 1938
Ivan de Franceschi A child born after the parent died died 27 MAR 1896, but Maja Franceschi born 1941
Ivan de Franceschi A child born after the parent died died 27 MAR 1896, but Vjeko Josip Franceschi born 1941
Ivan de Franceschi A child born after the parent died died 27 MAR 1896, but Ante Tonči Franceschi born 1944
Joannes Ivan Boras A child born after the parent died died 1926, but Blazenka? Boras born 1930
Josephus Josip Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich A child born after the parent died died 1825, but Joannes Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich born 1844
Luka Katnic A child born after the parent died died 10 DEC 1755, but Margaretha Jankovic born 1757
Luka Katnic A child born after the parent died died 10 DEC 1755, but Magdalena born 1768
Maria A child born after the parent died died 1845, but Magdalena Žubrinić born 1847
Maria A child born after the parent died died 1831, but Stephanus Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1833
Maria A child born after the parent died died 1831, but Josephus Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1836
Maria A child born after the parent died died 1831, but Theresia Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1844
Maria Sojath A child born after the parent died died 1891, but Georgius Prpic born 1962
Michael "Mate" Žubrinić / Zubrinic / Xubrinich A child born after the parent died died 1863, but Nikola Žubrinić (Xubrinic) born 1880
Phillipus Žubrinić A child born after the parent died died 1845, but Magdalena Žubrinić born 1847
Anna A child born before the parent born 1809, but Nicolaus Nicolai Kraljich born 1807
Maria Catharina Orešković Oreskovic A child born before the parent born 8 SEP 1835, but Nicolaus "Nikola" Žubrinić (Xubrinic) born 1834
Vladimira Baricevic A child born before the parent born 12 DEC 1907, but Andjelika Boras born 1888
Vladimira Baricevic A child born before the parent born 12 DEC 1907, but Draga Boras born 1891
Vladimira Baricevic A child born before the parent born 12 DEC 1907, but Marija Boras born 1892
Vladimira Baricevic A child born before the parent born 12 DEC 1907, but Budimir Boras born 1894
Vladimira Baricevic A child born before the parent born 12 DEC 1907, but pava Boras born 1895
Vladimira Baricevic A child born before the parent born 12 DEC 1907, but Paulina Boras born 1895
Vladimira Baricevic A child born before the parent born 12 DEC 1907, but olga Boras born 1902
Vladimira Baricevic A child born before the parent born 12 DEC 1907, but kreso Boras born 1906
Antonia Sestan Died before being born born 11 FEB 1847, died 4 AUG 1846
Maria Nelida Purtscher Dibar Died before being born born 2024, died 2009
Caetano Bacchi Two generations in too few years born 12 January 1779 (Maybe), but through undated Oliva Andreana Bacchi the grandchild Oliva Maria Smojver is born 1781 — 2 years for two generations
Pasquina Giovanna Figoni Married after dying died 1870, married 15 SEP 1902
Hector Defranceschi Married before being born born 22 JAN 1896, married 16 FEB 1835
Very doubtful

Where one date is hedged, or a name disagrees with a sex

A BEF 1850 or ABT 1782 is somebody's estimate. These conflicts may dissolve if the estimate is simply wrong — which is itself worth knowing, because it means the estimate is doing work it cannot support.

The name rows here are the other kind, and they sit at this level for the same reason: a name is strong evidence of a sex and not proof of one. Nothing below says which of the two fields is wrong — only that they cannot both be read as they stand.

WhoWhat kindThe contradiction
Antonio de Franceschi A child born after the parent died died AFT 1926, but Bruno de Franceschi born 1939
Tereza Pećanić A child born after the parent died died BEF 1850, but Anton Blazevic born 1860
Tereza Pećanić A child born after the parent died died BEF 1850, but Marija Blazevic born 1880
Tereza Pećanić A child born after the parent died died BEF 1850, but Ivan Blazevic born 1882
Tereza Pećanić A child born after the parent died died BEF 1850, but Antonija "Tonka" Blažević born 1884
Tereza Pećanić Married after dying died BEF 1850 (hedged), married 21 NOV 1858
Hellena Bellobalbic Married as a child born 1868, married 1868 — age 0
Anna A parent under thirteen born 1809, Mattheus Kraljich born 1812 — age 3
Anna A parent under thirteen born 1809, Stephanus Kraljich born 1817 — age 8
Anna A parent under thirteen born 1809, Francisca Kraljich born 1820 — age 11
Antonius Defranceschi A parent under thirteen born BEF 1815, Maria Maddalena Defranceschi born 1825 — age 10
Domenica Defranceschi A parent under thirteen born 1830, Maria Defranceschi born 1833 — age 3
Franciscus Antonio Antonius Defranceschi A parent under thirteen born 13 APR 1785, Mattheus / Matio "Matolin" di Franceschi / Defranceski born 1794 — age 9
Joanis Grach A parent under thirteen born BEF 1750, Johanes Grach born 1762 — age 12
Magdalena Žubrinić A parent under thirteen born 21 JUN 1812, Lucas Ugrin Adamich born 1822 — age 10
Maria Catharina Orešković Oreskovic A parent under thirteen born 8 SEP 1835, Daniel Žubrinić born 1837 — age 2
Maria Catharina Orešković Oreskovic A parent under thirteen born 8 SEP 1835, Francisca Žubrinić born 1840 — age 5
Maria Catharina Orešković Oreskovic A parent under thirteen born 8 SEP 1835, Maria Žubrinić born 1841 — age 6
Marko Butkovic A parent under thirteen born 1872, Antonija Butkovic born 1880 — age 8
Natale Defranceschi A parent under thirteen born BEF 1830, Stella Appolonia Defranceschi born 1841 — age 11
Nicolai Žubrinić A parent under thirteen born BEF 1769, Stephanus Stephani Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1769 — age 0
Teresa Grach A parent under thirteen born 1753, Giuseppe / Josephus "Joseph" Defranceschi born 1765 — age 12
Vladimira Baricevic A parent under thirteen born 12 DEC 1907, Zdenka Boras born 1907 — age 0
Vladimira Baricevic A parent under thirteen born 12 DEC 1907, Slava Boras born 1911 — age 4
Wolfgangus Volfgangus Adamic Adamich A parent under thirteen born 30 AUG 1813, Lucas Ugrin Adamich born 1822 — age 9
ladislava (lada) bilubaric A parent under thirteen born 11 JUN 1922, ante Boras born 1931 — age 9
Anna Grgurić A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Anna» is a form of ana, and 94 of the 94 other people here who bear it are women
Ante Blažević A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Ante» is a form of ante, and 58 of the 60 other people here who bear it are men
Ante Pavelic A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Ante» is a form of ante, and 58 of the 60 other people here who bear it are men
Ante Tomljanovic A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Ante» is a form of ante, and 58 of the 60 other people here who bear it are men
Franciscum Papić (Papa) A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Franciscum» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are men
Franciscus Grandic A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Franciscus» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 54 other people here who bear it are men
Franciscus Prpic A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Franciscus» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are men
Franciscus Xubrinich A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Franciscus» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are men
Frane Prpic A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Frane» is a form of franjo, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are men
Ivan A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Ivan» is a form of ivan, and 124 of the 124 other people here who bear it are men
Ivana Blažević A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Ivana» is a form of ivana, and 31 of the 33 other people here who bear it are women
Ivana Juhas A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Ivana» is a form of ivana, and 31 of the 34 other people here who bear it are women
Ivana Papić (Papa) A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Ivana» is a form of ivana, and 31 of the 33 other people here who bear it are women
Joannam Papić (Papa) A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Joannam» is a form of ivana, and 31 of the 33 other people here who bear it are women
Lucia Žubrinić Xubrinich A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Lucia» is a form of lucija, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are women
Lucija Loncaric Papić (Papa) A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Lucija» is a form of lucija, and 50 of the 53 other people here who bear it are women
Maria Marija Kalanj A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Maria» is a form of marija, and 192 of the 192 other people here who bear it are women
Michaël MIchael Kostelacz A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Michaël» is a form of mihovil, and 49 of the 49 other people here who bear it are men
Michele C Defranceschi A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Michele» is a form of mihovil, and 49 of the 50 other people here who bear it are men
Nikola Kalanj A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Nikola» is a form of nikola, and 36 of the 37 other people here who bear it are men
Nikula Zubrinic A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Nikula» is a form of nikola, and 36 of the 37 other people here who bear it are men
Paolo Paula Eriavaz A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Paolo» is a form of pavao, and 26 of the 26 other people here who bear it are men
Peter De Franceschi A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Peter» is a form of petar, and 22 of the 23 other people here who bear it are men
Petrus Kalanj A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Petrus» is a form of petar, and 22 of the 22 other people here who bear it are men
Stephanus Bujic A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded F; «Stephanus» is a form of stjepan, and 27 of the 27 other people here who bear it are men
Tonka Miletic A recorded sex the name contradicts recorded M; «Tonka» is a form of antonija, and 32 of the 32 other people here who bear it are women
Worth a look

Unlikely rather than impossible

Added 13 September 2026: a band for parents aged thirteen to sixteen. This was raised because George Untersinger, fathering at fifteen in 1802, sat just under the old line of thirteen and was never flagged at all. Thirteen to sixteen is possible and uncommon, so it sits here rather than moving the line of what cannot be true — and two of them are the same child, Anton Blažević of 1840, whose mother was fifteen and whose father was sixteen. That is a couple who married very young, or a birth year that is wrong.

A mother of fifty-one and a man of a hundred and eleven are both possible, and both are usually a mistake. These were computed from the first day this check existed and were held back from the page until now, on the thin grounds that they were not certain enough — which is the opposite of how the rest of this archive works. They are published here with their doubt attached.

WhoWhat kindThe contradiction
Gregorius Gregory Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich Lived past a hundred and five born 12 MAR 1785, died 1896 — age 111
Catharina A mother over fifty born 5 AUG 1784, Joannes Žubrinić Zubrinic Xubrinich born 1844 — age 60
Helena A mother over fifty born 25 JUN 1788, Eva Untersinger born 1839 — age 51
Maria A mother over fifty born 14 MAR 1793, Theresia Žubrinić Xubrinich born 1844 — age 51
Maria Sojath A mother over fifty born 1823, Georgius Prpic born 1962 — age 139
Marica Milkovic A mother over fifty born 1904, Vladimira Boras born 1960 — age 56
Matia Sekula A mother over fifty born 1810, Martha Žubrinić Zubrinic born 1861 — age 51
Anton Kljapo Blažević A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born 2 MAY 1824, Anton Martin (Tone) Blažević born 1840 — age 16
Antonius Defranceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1815, Domenica Defranceschi born 1829 — age 14
Antonius Defranceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1745, Vitorio Defranceschi born 1758 — age 13
Franciscus Defranceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1855, Giovanni Joannes Baptista Defranceschi born 1869 — age 14
George Untersinger A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born 25 MAR 1787, Rosalia Untersinger born 1802 — age 15
Giambattista De Franceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1765, Lucia De Franceschi born 1779 — age 14
Helena A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born 25 JUN 1788, Rosalia Untersinger born 1802 — age 14
Johannes / Giovanni Gian Battista "Ivan / John" de Franceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born 1750, Giuseppe / Josephus "Joseph" Defranceschi born 1765 — age 15
Magdalena Defranceski A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1845, Stephanus Bujic born 1859 — age 14
Maria Defranceski A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1795, Josephus Premate born 1809 — age 14
Marija Šojat A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born 13 MAR 1825, Anton Martin (Tone) Blažević born 1840 — age 15
Mattio Defranceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1690, Antonio Defranceschi born 1704 — age 14
Natale Defranceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1800, Angelo Defranceschi born 1815 — age 15
Ruzica Petrovic A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born 1868, Ivana Jovanovic born 1881 — age 13
Simone De Franceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1760, Josef De Franceschi born 1775 — age 15
Stane Blažević A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born 1860, Luce born 1876 — age 16
Ursula Kovačina A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born 28 FEB 1895, Josip Petar "Pepo/Pepe" Defranceski born 1911 — age 16
Vitorio Defranceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1720, Piero Anto Defranceschi born 1736 — age 16
Vittorio Vitorio Defranceschi A parent aged thirteen to sixteen born BEF 1795, Perina Defranceschi born 1810 — age 15
The case the first version missed

Two years is not enough for two generations

The checks above compare a parent's dates with a child's — which needs both to exist. Where the generation in between is undated, a contradiction falls straight through. Reading the Karlobag registers turned up exactly that, on the direct line.

Ahnentafel 214Caetano Bacchi, born “12 January 1779 (Maybe)” — the hedge is the tree's own
His daughterOliva Andreana Bacchi — died 15 September 1795, no birth date at all
Her daughterOliva Maria Smojver, born 11 March 1781 — confirmed in the register

A man born in 1779 cannot be grandfather to a girl born in 1781. And Oliva Andreana died in 1795, so she was born well before 1781 herself — her father belongs somewhere around 1730–1745. The 1779 baptism is real; it simply records a different Caetano Bacchi.

It takes two more ancestors with it. Angelo Bacchi (ahn 428) and Catharina (ahn 429) are in this pedigree only because that entry names them as the child's parents. If the baptism is not his, they are not his parents — and Catharina is one of the seven women here with no surname, so nothing else anchors her.

The tool now also walks grandparent → undated child → grandchild and requires at least twenty-four years across two generations. In this archive it fires exactly once.

Added 17 September 2026

Twenty-two people whose sex fights their own name

Every check above is about dates. This one is not. tools/names.py now counts, for each of the thirty-nine given-name groups, how many men and how many women in this archive bear it — read off the records, not asserted from a table. That makes a new question nearly free: is anyone recorded as a sex their own name contradicts? Twenty-two people are.

The table would have been the wrong thing to ask. given_names.py declares matija male, and eight of the forty people written Matia here are women — one of them ahnentafel 13 — because Matija is unisex in Croatian and the table has one column for it. A table is a claim. The counts are a record. So the rule is drawn from the archive's own usage: a name borne by at least five people here, at least nine in ten of them one sex, against a person recorded as the other.

The errors were voting on whether they were errors

The case that prompted this is Ivana Blažević, recorded M. Ivana is borne here by 21 women and 3 people recorded M. Counted whole, that is 87 per cent — under any threshold worth setting, and the check says nothing. The three wrong records were holding the name below the line that would have caught them.

So the majority is counted without the person being judged. Set Ivana Blažević aside and the other 23 are 91 per cent women, and all three are found. The same thing happens one group over: the four “women” in the Franjo tally are not other names caught by the fold — they are the four records this check reports.

Two couples are recorded as each other

Lucija Lončarić Papić is recorded M and entered as the husband of a wife called Ivan, who is recorded F. All 124 people here bearing a form of Ivan are men; 50 of the 54 bearing a form of Lucija are women. Lucia Žubrinić and Michaël Kostelacz are the same shape again. In both, the sex fields follow the place in the family and not the name — which is one swap, recorded twice, and visible only because both halves were checked.

Half of each couple has no page here, being named only in the other's family list. This archive has three times mistaken an unpublished person for no person at all. Both halves are reported.

One letter, and the tree wrote it itself

Joannam Papić, born 1845 at Selce, is recorded M. Joannam is the accusative of Joanna, a woman. The accusative of the man's name Joannes is Joannem, with an e — which is why the archive's given-name table files joannam under Ivana and joannem under Ivan. The finding is carried entirely by a letter somebody copied out of a register, and the same page that explains why the case ending is there is the page that settles which name it belongs to.

Nothing here says which of the two fields is wrong, and it must not. Petrus Kalanj is a Latin nominative and can only be a man, so the F is the error. Three women entered as wives and mothers carry the forename Ante, which here belongs to forty-seven men and nobody else — there the sex and the marriage agree and it is the name that dissents. Paolo Paula Eriavaz, mother of seven children between 1927 and 1946, is a woman whose given-name field holds both forms and leads with the masculine one, so every index built from it files her first as a man. She is Paula. Each of the twenty-two is answered on the person's own page, and the tree itself is not touched — this archive reports it and does not edit it.

What it still misses, and the bug it found on the way

Counting the bearers exposed a fault in the counting. Eighteen name forms are filed under two or three languages — Maria is Latin, Italian and Hungarian — and the tally added a person once per language. The one person written Maria and recorded M was three men, and Mihovil had 87 bearers where it has 39. Those numbers were printed on the name page until it moved to a shared component; they now feed this check instead, which is a worse place for a count to be wrong. Fixed at the source, and the twenty-two findings did not change — which is the only reassuring thing about it.

And the check is deliberately deaf in one ear. The tallies count published people, so someone without a page contributes nothing to set aside and is judged by the whole group, wrong records included. Ivana Juhas, recorded M, is that person, and this check does not find her. It errs towards silence, which is the right direction for something that stops a deploy — but the gap is written down rather than left in the gaps.

And it caught three people who are not people

Running the check surfaced four sorting buckets being published as ancestors — 1800-1830 Birth — Selce Papić (Papa) and three like it. The build has always excluded research scaffolding, on the stated grounds that publishing it "would be a lie"; the filter simply did not recognise a name that opens with a year, or one reading Brothers of Casparus (It Seems).

They are gone. (The person count quoted here when this was written, 1,086, has since been overtaken: a surname-fold fix brought 214 more people into the archive.) They had children attached to them, which is how the check found them: a bucket dated 1800-1830 cannot be a parent to somebody born in 1824. What changed →

Added 13 September 2026 — worked one at a time

The twenty “record” contradictions, gone through

The section above sorts the rows by kind. This one goes through the only kind that is a finding about the past, and asks of each what is actually wrong. They collapse further — into five situations and a short list of single slips.

1. Three parents die in 1845 and have children in 1847 — and 1845 is a guess

Elias Žubrinić (d. 1845, child born 1847), Phillipus Žubrinić (d. 1845, child born 1847) and a Maria (d. 1845, child born 1847). Three of the same shape in one family in one year.

That looked like an epidemic. This archive has suspected one since question 4b, because Elias Žubrinić and his wife Ana Untersinger both died in 1845 leaving seven children. Tested, it is not an epidemic.

Deaths in 1845, whole export27 — against a mean of 25.8 for 1820–1880. No spike at all.
Deaths in 1845 at a Croatian place0
Worst Croatian years1875, 1880, 1867 — not 1845, which does not appear

The reason is in how the dates are written. Six people in this family carry the bare string 1845 — no day, no month, no place, no source: Elias Žubrinić, Ana Untersinger, Phillipus Žubrinić, Martinus Žubrinić, a Maria born 1838 and a Maria born 1809, plus Nicolaus Kraljić. The only two 1845 deaths in this archive that carry a real date — Jelena Katnić on 21 November and Mihovil Kalanj on 13 March — are not in this group at all.

An epidemic recorded in a death register produces days and months. A year applied in bulk produces exactly this. So “1845” here is far better read as somebody's estimate for a group of people who dropped out of the record together — and if it is an estimate, the children born in 1847 are not impossible, merely later than a guess.

This weakens question 4b rather than answering it, and the request to Gospić should now ask a different thing: not “was there an epidemic in 1845” but “when did these six actually die”. A single decade of the Otočac death register would still settle it.

2. The Boras generation, skipped

Eleven rows across four people, and they are one family making the same mistake at both ends of itself: a generation has been skipped twice.

At the bottom. Budimir Boras (1894–1954) and Marica Milković (b. 1904) have ten children. Eight of them — 1923, 1924, 1924, 1926, 1927, 1929, 1930, 1933 — are a coherent set, born when Marica was between nineteen and twenty-nine. The other two are not: Domagoj in 1946 (Marica at 42) and Vladimira in 1960 (Marica at 56, and six years after Budimir died). Those two are almost certainly grandchildren — children of one of the eight — attached to the grandparents instead.

At the top, the same thing. Joannes Ivan Boras, born 1855, is given Vladimira Baricević, born 1907, as his wife, and fourteen children hang off her — nine of them born before she was. A woman born in 1907 is the right age to have married one of his sons, and that is the likeliest reading: she has been put in the wrong generation, and Joannes's actual wife is missing from the record entirely.

One woman in the wrong slot accounts for eleven of the sixty-three rows on this page — which is the whole argument for counting causes rather than symptoms.

3. One typing slip that produced three impossibilities

Georgius Prpić, entered as born 26 March 1962 to parents who died in 1888 and 1891 — reported here as a child born after his father's death, a child born after his mother's, and a mother of 139. His own birthplace settles it: Krivi Put 136, Senj, Lika, Austria-Hungary, a state that ceased to exist in 1918, at his parents' own house. Everything agrees with 1862. What changed →

4. Two that are already open questions

Maria Catharina Orešković, born 1835, as mother of a boy baptised 1834 — this is question 4d, worked out the slow way from three parish registers. And Michael “Mate” Žubrinić, dead in 1863 with a son born in 1880, which is the one man or two question the Gospić letter exists to settle.

5. And six single slips with nothing behind them

Antonia Šestanborn 11 Feb 1847, died 4 Aug 1846 Died before born. A one-digit year error, and the archive cannot say which of the two.
Hector Defranceschiborn 1896, married 1835 A marriage attached to the wrong man of the name.
Hellena Bellobalbićborn 1868, married 1868 Married at nought. Almost certainly her parents' marriage year, carried onto her.
Annaborn 1809, husband born 1807 — child born 1807 One of the seven women here with no surname, so nothing else anchors her.
Luka Katnićdied 1755, children born 1757 and 1768 Thirteen years apart. The second child cannot be explained by a posthumous birth.
Catharina / Matia Sekulamothers at 60 and 51 Possible, unlikely, and unresolvable without the registers.

So of twenty, three are solved, nine are two family-sized mis-joins, two are questions already open, and six are single slips that need a register. Not one of them required reading a new document — only reading the ones already here against each other.

What this does not claim

  • It does not say which date is wrong. When a mother dies before her child is born, either date could be the bad one, and the check has no way to choose. It only says they cannot both stand.
  • It does not touch the tree. Nothing here has been edited at source. The contradictions are reproduced, not resolved — the same rule the rest of this archive follows. Method →
  • It is scoped to this family. The export carries six family trees; run across all 15,643 people the same check returns 554. Those belong to the other archives, and are their business.