Joannam Papić (Papa)
1845–? · Selce, Croatia
Connected to this family only through a sorting label
Every route from Hedviga to this person passes through a sorting label — a working note sitting where an ancestor should be. This is not a claim that the person is invented; the register entries behind them are real. It is a statement about the join. Why this matters →
Recorded a man, under a woman's name in the accusative
| The tree says | Joannam Papić, born 1845 at Selce — sex recorded M, child of Josephi Papić and Catharinæ |
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| The record says | Joannam is the accusative of Joanna, a woman. The accusative of the man's name Joannes is Joannem, with an e |
One letter carries the whole finding, and it is the tree's own letter — whoever copied this entry copied an a. That is why the archive's given-name table files joannam under Ivana and joannem under Ivan, and why 21 of the 23 other people here bearing a form of the name are women. Nothing external has been read; the two fields are simply at odds. Read it →
| Born | 1845, Selce, Croatia |
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| Line | Papić (Papa) · everyone of the name → |
| Record | @I509037@ |
Family
The mark describes the person, not the link. Of the 2 relatives drawn here, 0 have a document of their own in this archive — but that is not the same as a document tying them to this person. This archive holds no separate proof for most parent–child links; where it does, the note above this chart says so in words.
Where this comes from
Disputed
this archive has shown something recorded about them to be wrong.
1 correction or note has been recorded against this page — set out above, and listed on What changed.
Where this sits in the family
Not on the direct line. They are published because they belong to one of the eight surnames this archive follows.
The register spells this surname more than one way, and the search folds the forms together — so Xubrinich and Žubrinić, Joannis and Ivan, find each other.
Where this surname sits on the map →
What the tree says that cannot be true →
Events, as the record has them
- birth 1845 Selce, Croatia "Croatia, Church Books, 1516-1994," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99C-59DB-Z?cc=2040054&wc=9R2M-BZF%3A391644801%2C391919101%2C391919102 : 6 April 2015), Roman Catholic (Rimokatolička crkva) > Selce > Births (Rođeni) 1778-1815 Deaths (Umrli) 1790-1815 Births (Rođeni) 1816-1861 Marriages (Vjenčani) 1790-1815 > image 213 of 294; Arhiva Hrvatske u Zagrebu (Croatia State Archives), Zagreb.
- death
Sources attached in the tree
None. This person carries no source string at all in the tree. They may still be right — but nothing here can be checked without going to the register. Method →
An online family tree is a witness, not a source. Where a citation points at a parish register or a FamilySearch image, that is the thing worth going to. Sources →