The Blažević Archive
Direct ancestor · generation 3

Josip Anton "Joso" Papić

1857–1939 · Senj, Općina Senj, Lika-Senj County, Croatia

Marriage and trade

The tree saysMarried Antonija Prpić; trhonoša, bremenar, gostioničar
The record saysMarried 3 May 1885 at Senj, aged 27, entered bremenar

Senj marriages p.192 no.5. He is 27 and she 26, matching births of 1857 and 1859. The entry names all four parents: Juraj Papa/Papić, težak, and Matea r. Pilipić; Ivan Perpić, seljak, and Luca. Witnesses Franjo and Toma Perpić, seljaci; Mirko Babić, kapelan. Read it →

Born1 NOV 1857, Senj, Općina Senj, Lika-Senj County, Croatia
Died19 NOV 1939, Senj, Croatia
Occupation
Trhonosa,bremenar,gostionicar.
Trhonosa,bremenar,gostionicar — Senj
LinePapić · everyone of the name →
Ahnentafel6 — generation 3, a direct ancestor of Hedviga
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Family

Josip Anton "Joso" Papić1 NOV 1857–19 NOV 1939generation 3 · ahnentafel 6
married 3 MAY 1885Antonija "Tonka" "Tonka" Perpić / Prpic1859–1935a record read
a direct ancestor a record has been read for them an image, not yet read from the family tree, unverified

The mark describes the person, not the link. Of the 20 relatives drawn here, 13 have a document of their own in this archive — but that is not the same as a document tying them to this person. This archive holds no separate proof for most parent–child links; where it does, the note above this chart says so in words.

7 documents read

What the registers say about Josip Anton

YearDocument The citation, in the register's own words
1857 baptism Senj, 1 Nov 1857 — "baptizavi Josephum filium legitimum Romano-Catholicum Joannis Papa et ejus uxoris Mathiae Pilipic", godfather + Michael Stipancic
1885 marriage Senj, 3 May 1885, entry 5 — "Josip Papic, bremenar, Senj, 27"
1939 grave Senj municipal cemetery, stone cross — «JOSIP PAPIĆ ✽1857 †1939»; both years agree with the tree (b. 1 Nov 1857, d. 19 Nov 1939). Read at 4x; IMG_8131 notes/senj-cemetery-2024.md
1886 named-on-a-child-baptism Senj baptisms Str. 122 entry 96, READ FROM THE IMAGE — «Milka Lucia», zakonita, born 9 October 1886, baptised 17 October; father «Josip Papić, trhonoša», mother «Tonka rođ. Prpić»; godparents Josip Glavičić, trhonoša, and Ivka Filipović. The register writes the birth «1886, 9/10». The margin was annotated at her death: «Uvidom u matičnu knjigu umrlih opć. Senj str. 280. red. br. 37. umrla dana 7.9.1971», endorsed 30.9.1971 Named on Milka Lucia Papic's entry rather than their own — a register names you is not a register is about you.
1888 named-on-a-child-baptism index only — the page has not been opened Senj, baptised 3 Jul 1888 — «Joso Papić × Tona Perpić»; ark 1:1:X9DP-3YVS. INDEX ONLY, and it gives no birth day Named on Ana "Anica" Papić's entry rather than their own — a register names you is not a register is about you. notes/senj-1886-milka-baptism-index.md
1890 named-on-a-child-baptism index only — the page has not been opened Senj, baptised 1890 — «Joso Papić × Tonka Prpić»; ark 1:1:X9DP-3BD3. INDEX ONLY, and it gives no day Named on Josip Papić's entry rather than their own — a register names you is not a register is about you. notes/senj-1886-milka-baptism-index.md
1891 named-on-a-child-baptism index only — the page has not been opened Senj, born 9 Dec 1891, baptised 13 Dec 1891 — «Joso Papić × Tonka Prpić»; ark 1:1:X9D5-M739. INDEX ONLY. Agrees with the tree to the day, and with her own marriage register Named on Bozica Tonka Papić's entry rather than their own — a register names you is not a register is about you. notes/senj-1886-milka-baptism-index.md

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2 pages kept

The register pages themselves

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Senj, 3 May 1885 — Josip Papić and Antonia Perpić (parents: Juraj Papa & Matia Pilipić; Ivan Perpić & Luca rođena Perpić). The register page as read: image 196, a two-page spread: the LEFT page (printed 191) has the couple, places and ages, the RIGHT page (printed p. 192) the parents, witnesses and priest; the entry is no. 5, the middle row of both.
Senj, 3 May 1885 — Josip Papić and Antonia Perpić (parents: Juraj Papa & Matia Pilipić; Ivan Perpić & Luca rođena Perpić)
Senj marriages (Vjenčani) 1859–1920 (FamilySearch waypoint 9R2D-N3F) · image 196, a two-page spread: the LEFT page (printed 191) has the couple, places and ages, the RIGHT page (printed p. 192) the parents, witnesses and priest; the entry is no. 5, the middle row of both.
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Senj, 1 November 1857 — Josephus, son of Joannes Papa and Mathia Pilipić (godparents Michael and Catharina Stipančić). The register page as read: image 571, right-hand page (printed 31), the second entry from the foot of the visible part, numbered 117: «Anno Domini 1857 die 1 Novembris»; the entry before it (116) is the baptism of Aloysia Anna on the same date.
Senj, 1 November 1857 — Josephus, son of Joannes Papa and Mathia Pilipić (godparents Michael and Catharina Stipančić)
Senj births (Rođeni) 1756–1858 (FamilySearch waypoint 9R2M-L27) · image 571, right-hand page (printed 31), the second entry from the foot of the visible part, numbered 117: «Anno Domini 1857 die 1 Novembris»; the entry before it (116) is the baptism of Aloysia Anna on the same date.
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One more person found beside Josip Anton

Every one of these was read out of a parish register for this person — named in an entry that is about Josip Anton, or beside him in one. The family tree holds none of them, so that one cannot appear in the chart above. This is evidence standing beside the tree rather than inside it.

WhoHow they stand to Josip AntonRead from
Matilda Papić parish register · not yet in the family tree third name on the stone cross of Josip Papić (ahnentafel 6) and Antonija — almost certainly their daughter memorial, died 1921, born 1895 · Senj

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Where this comes from

Read

a register or certificate has been read for this person.

9 images are attached to this person , of which 7 are documents rather than photographs.

1 correction or note has been recorded against this page — set out above, and listed on What changed.

How much of the direct line rests on a document →

Every record naming Papić →

Where this sits on the line

Ahnentafel 6 — generation 3 of Hedviga's descent. Every person's father is twice their own number and their mother twice plus one, so this person's parents are 12 and 13.

The register spells this surname more than one way, and the search folds the forms together — so Xubrinich and Žubrinić, Joannis and Ivan, find each other.

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Where this surname sits on the map →
What the tree says that cannot be true →

Events, as the record has them

  • death 19 NOV 1939 Senj, Croatia
  • birth 1 NOV 1857 Senj, Općina Senj, Lika-Senj County, Croatia
    "Croatia, Church Books, 1516-1994," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99C-5TBF?cc=2040054&wc=9R2M-L27%3A391644801%2C391920301%2C391920401 : 6 April 2015), Roman Catholic (Rimokatolička crkva) > Senj (Senj) > Births (Rođeni) 1756-1858 > image 571 of 589; Arhiva Hrvatske u Zagrebu (Croatia State Archives), Zagreb.

Notes carried in the tree

Reproduced as written, minus the automated copy-reference boilerplate. These are what the family and other researchers put down, not what this archive has verified.

we need to check who is this josip papic? different marriage? "Croatia, Church Books, 1516-1994," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99X-17BY?cc=2040054&wc=9R2D-N3F%3A391644801%2C391920301%2C391921101 : 16 July 2014), Roman Catholic (Rimokatolička crkva) > Senj (Senj) > Marriages (Vjenčani) 1859-1920 > image 245 of 376; Arhiva Hrvatske u Zagrebu (Croatia State Archives), Zagreb.

Documents and photographs

7 documents and 2 photographs in the MyHeritage media library carry this person's tag. None of them travelled in the GEDCOM. All of them →

Kosina-Blazevic and Kosina-Anka Marriage
Kosina-Blazevic and Kosina-Anka Marriage · 4500×3372 document
Franjo and Bozica Marriage 3QSQ-G99X-174F
Franjo and Bozica Marriage 3QSQ-G99X-174F · 4500×3278 document
Marko and Ana Marriage 1918 3QSQ-G99X-1QBW
Marko and Ana Marriage 1918 3QSQ-G99X-1QBW · 4500×3276 document
Marija Papic Birth 1885
Marija Papic Birth 1885 · 2953×2280 document
Milka Lucia Birth - 1886
Milka Lucia Birth - 1886 · 2728×2097 document
Zvonomir and Milka Marriage
Zvonomir and Milka Marriage · 960×709 document
Josip and Antonija Marriage
Josip and Antonija Marriage · 960×698 document
20181217 214404 (Josip Papic)
Untitled · 548×865
Josip Papic
Josip Papic · 548×730

A tag says somebody linked this image to this person — not that the person is in it. A register page is tagged to everyone it names. Method →

Sources attached in the tree

  • Defranceski Family Site (23andMe) — https://www.myheritage.com/person-1500049_OYYV6LFZPZVJRS42NCV5KU3QSWJBCMI_OYYV6LFZPZVJRS42NCV5KU3QSWJBCMI/josip-papic
  • Geni World Family Tree — https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-40000-223705945/josip-papić-in-geni-world-family-tree

An online family tree is a witness, not a source. Where a citation points at a parish register or a FamilySearch image, that is the thing worth going to. Sources →