The Blažević Archive
Direct ancestor · generation 6

Joannis Antić

1765–1829 · Selce

A grammatical artefact, not a name

He was not called “Joannis”

The tree recordsJoannis
Which isthe genitive of Joannes

These registers are narrative Latin. A priest writing baptizavi Josephum — “I baptised Josephus” — is writing a case ending, and filius Josephi is “son of Josephus”. Transcribed literally, the ending becomes the name. In life this person was Joannes, or its Croatian form. All forty of them →

Born1765, Selce
Died13 MAR 1829, Selce
Ahnentafel48 — generation 6, a direct ancestor of Hedviga
Record@I504623@

Family

Joannis Antić1765–13 MAR 1829generation 6 · ahnentafel 48
married 18 OCT 1798Margarita (Martha) Lončarić1777–1829a record read
a direct ancestor a record has been read for them an image, not yet read from the family tree, unverified

The mark describes the person, not the link. Of the 4 relatives drawn here, 3 have a document of their own in this archive — but that is not the same as a document tying them to this person. This archive holds no separate proof for most parent–child links; where it does, the note above this chart says so in words.

4 documents read

What the registers say about Joannis

YearDocument The citation, in the register's own words
1798 marriage Selce marriages 1790-1815 image 248 left (DGS 5482267): «Die 18° 9bris [1798] … junxi Matrimonio Joannem filium Defunctorum Anto[nii] et Ursulae Antich, cum Martha filia Pauli et Annae Lončarich», witnesses Mathia Jellichich and Georgio Antich; house 27 as read; image 248 of the film's 294 notes/selce-marriage-1798-antic-loncaric.md
1806 baptism-of-child named as father, 1806 baptism of ahn 24 notes/vrbnik-or-selce.md
1829 death Selce LIBER DEFUNCTORUM image 304 — «Die 13a Martii 1829 · Nrus Domus 51 · Joannes Antich Papa. obiit Annorum 64, omnibus morientium SS. provisus … per me Vincent. Kombel Parochum sepultus est»; ark 3:1:3QS7-L99X-1QQL notes/selce-antic-1829-papa.md
1835 marriage-of-child named as the groom's late father notes/selce-1835-marriage.md

Every document this archive has read →

3 pages kept

The register pages themselves

The page as it was read, with the film, the image number and a link to the viewer. What a snapshot is and is not →

Selce, 18 October 1798 — Joannes Antić and Martha Lončarić. The register page as read: image 248, left-hand page, headed «Anno 1798»: the second entry, numbered 27 in the margin.
Selce, 18 October 1798 — Joannes Antić and Martha Lončarić
Selce marriages 1790–1815 (DGS 5482267, FamilySearch waypoint 9R2M-BZF) · image 248, left-hand page, headed «Anno 1798»: the second entry, numbered 27 in the margin.
Open the image in the viewer → · the working note
Selce, 13 March 1829 — Joannes Antich «Papa», aged 64, house 51. The register page as read: image 18 (a single page, headed «Liber Defunctorum», months of 1829): the third entry, «Dis 13 Martii 1829», house number 51.
Selce, 13 March 1829 — Joannes Antich «Papa», aged 64, house 51
Selce deaths (Umrli) 1816–1886 (FamilySearch waypoint 9R2D-N32) · image 18 (a single page, headed «Liber Defunctorum», months of 1829): the third entry, «Dis 13 Martii 1829», house number 51.
Open the image in the viewer → · the working note
Selce, 22 November 1835 — Josephus Antich «Papa» and Maria Jellichich, house 51 (entry 81). The register page as read: image 26, a two-page spread (kept as two images): the LEFT image is the left-hand page, headed «Annus 1835» and running from 22 July; the RIGHT image is the right-hand page (printed 21–22, with the archivist's tab SMEARED INK / RAZLIVENA TINTA), where entry 81, the second numbered entry below the loose slip, is the 22 November marriage of house 51.
Selce, 22 November 1835 — Josephus Antich «Papa» and Maria Jellichich, house 51 (entry 81)
Selce marriages (Vjenčani) 1815–1878 (FamilySearch waypoint 9R2D-N35) · image 26, a two-page spread (kept as two images): the LEFT image is the left-hand page, headed «Annus 1835» and running from 22 July; the RIGHT image is the right-hand page (printed 21–22, with the archivist's tab SMEARED INK / RAZLIVENA TINTA), where entry 81, the second numbered entry below the loose slip, is the 22 November marriage of house 51.
Open the image in the viewer → · the other page, or the whole page · the working note

Where this comes from

Read

a register or certificate has been read for this person.

2 images are attached to this person , of which 2 are documents rather than photographs.

How much of the direct line rests on a document →

Every record naming Antić →

Where this sits on the line

Ahnentafel 48 — generation 6 of Hedviga's descent. Every person's father is twice their own number and their mother twice plus one, so this person's parents are 96 and 97.

The register spells this surname more than one way, and the search folds the forms together — so Xubrinich and Žubrinić, Joannis and Ivan, find each other.

The spine →
Where this surname sits on the map →
What the tree says that cannot be true →

Events, as the record has them

  • birth 1765 Selce
  • death 13 MAR 1829 Selce

Documents and photographs

2 documents and 0 photographs in the MyHeritage media library carry this person's tag. None of them travelled in the GEDCOM. All of them →

Josephum and Maria Marriage 1835
Josephum and Maria Marriage 1835 · 2987×2163 document
Josephum Antic Baptism - 1806
Josephum Antic Baptism - 1806 · 2962×2167 document

A tag says somebody linked this image to this person — not that the person is in it. A register page is tagged to everyone it names. Method →

Sources attached in the tree

  • Marko Karic rodoslov — Joannis Antić, PAPA

An online family tree is a witness, not a source. Where a citation points at a parish register or a FamilySearch image, that is the thing worth going to. Sources →

Others of the same name

These parishes repeat their names relentlessly — 94 Marijas and 88 Ivans in this archive alone. These are different people, kept apart on purpose rather than merged into one. Merging on a name is exactly how this tree came to hold a man born after his own granddaughter.

Joannis Antić 1739–27 FEB 1793 place not recorded direct line

Same name, and nothing here says they are related. Why the names repeat →