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4 surnames kept in separate lanes

The Lines of a Name

A surname is not a family. Wherever the registers show several households of one name, each gets a lane of its own, and a join between lanes is drawn dotted until a document makes it.

They are not one family, and nothing read so far says they were. A name like Uroda or Smojver turns up in three households at one town, in a dead man «of Šibenik», in a soldier's household at Drniš. So each gets a lane of its own. What is documented goes on the lane; a join between lanes is drawn dotted and says what it rests on; nothing is merged until a register joins it.

Uroda · Smojver · Pilipić · Bacchi

Uroda — six groups, one surname

Uroda

Six groups of one surname — three at Karlobag, one dead man of Šibenik, and a soldier's family at Drniš and another at Betina. Only the top lane is ours, and the joins between the others are drawn dotted because no document makes them.

Six families of one surname, and the road each of them took Karlobag — Georgius × Maria (ours) DOCUMENTED FROM 1763 · HIS BAPTISM, HIS PARENTS AND THEIR MARRIAGE NOT FOUND The Karlobag pages → Papić, Josip b. 1857 — Matia Uroda (27) → Matia Pilipić (13) → Josip Papić (6) → Milka (3) → Hedviga (1) Papić, Josip b. 1857 Brother Joannes — Joannes, the 1784 child, married Maria Barletich in 1806; a Joannes Uroda × Maria baptise at Karlobag in 1810–11. Probably the same couple, not proved Brother Joannes Šibenik — His first child's godfather, Antonio Barach, is of Šibenik — a thread to the Dalmatian town, not a descent Šibenik Godparents · 2 Nov 1763 — Georgius and Maria Uroda are godparents to a child of Paulus and Ursula Smojver — the first sight of them in a register Godparents 2 Nov 1763 1st child · 6 May 1764 — Joannes Dominicus, their first child, baptised — godfather ANTONIO BARACH OF ŠIBENIK and Vincentia, wife of Joannes Margvart (re-read at 3x, 11 October 2026); the name Dominicus is the argument that Georgius's father was a Dominicus 1st child 6 May 1764 8 children · 1764–1784 — Eight children in the index: Dominicus 1764, Petrus Jacobus 1767, Heva Joanna 1769, Maria Catharina 1772, Heva 1773, Joannes Georgius 1777, Anton Joannis 1780, Joannes 1784 8 children 1764–1784 Joannes G. · 22 Apr 1777 — Joannes Georgius baptised — ahnentafel 54, with both parents named Joannes G. 22 Apr 1777 Death · 10 Sep 1791 — Dominus Georgius Uroda dies and is buried in his own crypt before the church doors — no age given Death 10 Sep 1791 Marriage · 17 Jun 1807 — Georgius, son of the late Georgius, marries Maria Gerkacs (ahnentafel 54 × 55) Marriage 17 Jun 1807 Matia 27 · 23 Apr 1810 — Matia baptised, ahnentafel 27 — whose daughter Matia Pilipić (13) is the mother of Josip Papić Matia 27 23 Apr 1810 Karlobag — Dume Uroda «alias Kovaca» × Eva, then Jerolina DOCUMENTED 1733–1750 · BAPTISM, PARENTS, MARRIAGES NOT FOUND · BY-NAME KOVAČ · LINK TO GEORGIUS NOT PROVED The Dume Uroda page → Georgius, ahn 108 — The 1742 son … Juria might be Georgius, and a Jure Uroda is godfather beside Dume's widow in 1752 — neither shows it Georgius, ahn 108 Antona · 16 Jan 1733 — Antona baptised to Sime [or Dume?] Uroda and Eva — the index reads Sime, the first letter is not firm Antona 16 Jan 1733 Alias · 8 Mar 1734 — A child, Dominico as read, to Dume Uroda alias Kovaca — a smith's by-name — and Eva; first read as Horaca, re-read at 3x as kovaca Alias 8 Mar 1734 Eva · 12 Jan 1737 — Eva is godmother, xena Dume urode — one Eva, 1733 to 1739 Eva 12 Jan 1737 Franica · Dec 1739 — Franica, daughter of Dume Uroda and Eva Franica Dec 1739 Jerolina · 1742–1745 — Jerolina is his wife; a son in 1742 (name ends Juria), Giakova (Jakov) on 10 May 1744 as the index reads him, Marta on 11 Aug 1745, Lucia on 17 Dec 1746 Jerolina 1742–1745 Witness · 1744–1749 — A witness at marriages about ten times, and the parish's commonest godparent with Jerolina Witness 1744–1749 Widow · Apr 1750 — Jerolima is udova … Dume Uroda — he died between December 1748 and April 1750 (no filmed death book) Widow Apr 1750 Daughters · 1755 · 1767 — Magdalena (1755) and Maria (1767, of the late Dominicus) marry — daughters of a Dominicus Uroda, probably his Daughters 1755 · 1767 Šibenik (Dolac) — the name from 1687 to 1767; four households by 1692; Franciscus with Anna, a master by 1725; Georgius (b. 6 Oct 1694, son of Dominicus and Lucietta; d. 1754) and his son Dominicus, an elder Dominicus (dead by 1746), Antonius (m. Antonia 1718); a Joannes; the dead Dume of 1739 THE NAME AT DOLAC WITHOUT A BREAK 1687–1767 · FOUR HOUSEHOLDS BY 1692 · GEORGIUS (BAPTISED 10 OCT 1694 AT THE CATHEDRAL, SON OF DOMINICUS AND LUCIETTA; D. 17 AUG 1754) FATHER OF DOMINICUS · NO BAPTISM OF A GEORGIUS, DOMINICUS OR DUME IN ANY DOLAC BOOK 1685–1762 · NO LINK TO KARLOBAG The Šibenik Uroda → Georgius's father — At Šibenik the father is now found: Georgius (b. 6 Oct 1694, d. 17 Aug 1754) was the son of the Magister Dominicus and Lucietta Vroda of the Dolac parish, baptised at the cathedral. That Georgius died in 1754; Georgius Uroda of Karlobag (ahnentafel 108) was alive from 1763 to 1791, so he is not the Šibenik Georgius — he named his first son Dominicus in 1764, as the Šibenik Georgius did, which keeps the name pattern but proves nothing. Georgius Uroda of Karlobag (ahnentafel 108) named his first son Dominicus in 1764. At Šibenik a Dominicus Uroda, a master, is filius Magistri Georgii (4 Aug 1746) and filius qd. Georgij Vroda (13 Feb 1757) — a Magister Georgius, alive in 1746 and dead by 1757, and a Dominicus. If Georgius of Karlobag is a son of that Dominicus he is named for his grandfather and his first son for his father; that is a pattern in the names, not a document, and none of the three Dolac baptism books (1685–1762) holds a baptism of him. There was also a Magister Georgius Uroda at Šibenik, married, in 1738: the Georgius of Karlobag cannot be that man if he first fathered a child in 1764, but he could be a grandson or a namesake. The Šibenik Georgius died on 17 August 1754 (aged about 60), so he is not the Karlobag Georgius, who is alive from 1763 to 1791; and the Šibenik Georgius's son Dominicus has only daughters and an infant Paulus in the Dolac books, no Georgius Georgius's father Dume's sons — The dead Dume of Šibenik (d. before 1739) is the one Šibenik Uroda with a recorded child (the bride Simona of 1739); Franciscus, Georgius and Dominicus, masters of the same years, are candidates for his sons, but no register read says so — and the one father named at Šibenik is Georgius (1757), not Dume Dume's sons Dominicus Vroda (wife Ursula) · 1687 – 1693 — Godfather 19 Apr 1687 and 22 Feb 1693; Dominus Vrodich & Vrsula eius coniunx Jan 1689; father of Lucia (31 Jul 1692) — the earliest Uroda in any Šibenik register; an Aurelia of 17 Sep 1693 (mother Silvia [?]) is doubtful Dominicus Vroda (wife Ursula) 1687 – 1693 Magister Dominicus Vrodda (wife Lucietta [Lucia]) — parents of Georgius · 10 Oct 1694; 14 [Oct] 1696 — Baptised at the cathedral for the Dolac parish: Georgius (born 6 Oct 1694) and Simeon (1696), ex Coningibus Magistro Domco ac Lucia Vrodda. Lucia is very probably the Lucia, ux. q. Mag: Dominici Vrodda, aged about 77, who died on 21 Jun 1746 — so this is the elder Magister Dominicus. Whether he is the Dominicus × Ursula of 1687–93 (a second marriage?) is not shown Magister Dominicus Vrodda (wife Lucietta [Lucia]) — parents of Georgius 10 Oct 1694; 14 [Oct] 1696 Thomas Vrodich (wife Catarina) · 1687 – 1692 — Godfather's wife Catarina in Apr 1687 and 17 Sep 1692; a daughter Justina, old enough to be a godmother, 2 Aug 1692 Thomas Vrodich (wife Catarina) 1687 – 1692 Lucas Vrodi (wife Mariota) · 1692 – 1698 — Sons Antonius (6 Aug 1692) and Michael (13 Jul 1698) — the household of Simeon (1705) and Paulus Antonius (1710); a daughter Michaela baptised at the cathedral in Jan 1694 to Magister Lucas and Maria Vrodal (in no Dolac book) Lucas Vrodi (wife Mariota) 1692 – 1698 Paulus Vroda (wife Anastasia, later Stanislava [?]) · 1691 – 1695 — Godfather's wife Anastasia 2 Dec 1691; godfather with Stanislava [?] 24 Aug 1693; a Stanca Vroda godmother Jul 1695 Paulus Vroda (wife Anastasia, later Stanislava [?]) 1691 – 1695 Joannes and Ursula Vroda · 1703 – 1705 — Sons Paulus (28 Jan 1703) and Antonius (31 May 1705) baptised in the Dolac parish — the earliest Uroda household met in any Šibenik register Joannes and Ursula Vroda 1703 – 1705 Lucas Vrodich · 27 Oct 1705; 16 Jan 1710 — Sons Simeon (1705) and Paulus Antonius (1710) baptised in the Dolac parish Lucas Vrodich 27 Oct 1705; 16 Jan 1710 Thomas and Anastasia Vrodich · 14 May 1706 — Son Paulus baptised in the Dolac parish Thomas and Anastasia Vrodich 14 May 1706 Antonius Vroda (dead by 1701) and his son Lucas · 13 Nov 1701 — Lucas, filius qm Antonij Vroda, marries Francisca, daughter of the late Joannes Loveta — a father Antonius in the generation before the 1680s–90s households Antonius Vroda (dead by 1701) and his son Lucas 13 Nov 1701 Thomas Vrodich marries Anastasia · 8 Jan 1702 — Thomas Vrodich, widowed of Catarina (1687, 1692) or a namesake, marries Anastasia — the mother of Paulus, baptised 1706 Thomas Vrodich marries Anastasia 8 Jan 1702 Paulus Vrodich (dead by 1710) and his son Antonius · Oct 1710 — Antonius, filius qdm Pauli Vrodich, marries the widow Anna — Paulus is the Paulus Vroda of 1691–95 Paulus Vrodich (dead by 1710) and his son Antonius Oct 1710 Magister Antonius Vroda (wife Antonia) · 1718 – 1742 — Antonius, son of Lucas Vrodich, marries Antonia on 30 Oct 1718; daughters Marietta (buried 18 Jan 1742) and Dominica (about 13, buried 19 Jul 1742) are filia Magistri Antonij Vroda Magister Antonius Vroda (wife Antonia) 1718 – 1742 Franciscus Vrodich [Urode] (wife Anna, later a Lucia?) · 1710 – 1721 — Son Paulus (23 Oct 1710), daughter Stanislava (21 Nov 1712) and son Franciscus Antonius (born 3 [Oct] 1721, filius Francisci Urode et Annae) by Anna; daughter SIMONA (21 Oct 1715) by a Lucia [?] — the first Franciscus; the master Franciscus of 1725–38 (dead by 1742) is this man or his namesake son Franciscus Vrodich [Urode] (wife Anna, later a Lucia?) 1710 – 1721 Georgius Urodich · 1715? – 1721 — Godfather Georgius Urodich at Dolac baptisms on 28 Jan 1720 and 27 Dec 1721, perhaps already D. Georgius Vrodi[ch?] on 28 Oct 1715 and the Magister Georgius of 1738 — one man or several is not shown Georgius Urodich 1715? – 1721 Dume of Šibenik · before 1739 — Dume Uroda od Šibenika — Dalmatia — nothing else is known of him Dume of Šibenik before 1739 Simona marries · 7 Jun 1739 — Martin Svjata marries Simona, pokoi[nog] Dume urode od Šibenika — daughter of the late Dume Uroda of Šibenik Simona marries 7 Jun 1739 Magister Franciscus Uroda · 19 Mar 1725 – 15 Nov 1738 — Godfather (Mr / Dñ Francus Vroda, nearly always beside an Angela Julioli) at Dolac baptisms on 19 Mar 1725, 6 Jul and 26 Oct 1728, 7 Jan, 23 Aug and 12 Sep 1729 and 12 Feb 1730, and again 25 Apr 1733, 30 Jan 1735 and, as Magister, 12 Oct 1738. Dead by 6 May 1742, when his daughter Antonia, wife of a Joannes Biliznich, is called filia q. Francisci Vrodda de hac Parochia S. Marci — and dead on 15 Nov 1738 (Magister Franciscus Vroda, buried at the Holy Trinity) Magister Franciscus Uroda 19 Mar 1725 – 15 Nov 1738 Georgius Uroda (Magister; born 6 Oct 1694, died 17 Aug 1754) · 1715? – 17 Aug 1754 — Baptised in the cathedral on 10 Oct 1694, ex Coniugibus Dominico et Lucietta Vroda — the age at death, 60, fits to the month. Godfather Georgius Urodich at Dolac 28 Jan 1720 and 27 Dec 1721 (perhaps already 28 Oct 1715); a master, already married, in 1738 (uxor Mri Georgij Vroda; his wife is not named Maria); ALIVE on 4 Aug 1746, when Dominico Vrodda, filio Magistri Georgii is a witness; and DEAD by 13 Feb 1757, when his son Dominicus is called filius qd. Georgij Vroda; very probably the Dominus Georgius Vroda aetatis annorum 60 who died on 17 Aug 1754 and was buried at S. Dominic; a daughter Magdalena, filia Magistri Georgii Vrode, was buried 29 Oct 1740 Georgius Uroda (Magister; born 6 Oct 1694, died 17 Aug 1754) 1715? – 17 Aug 1754 Magister Dominicus Uroda (son of the late Georgius) · 27 Jan 1726 [?]; 1741 – 3 Jun 1767 — A Mr. Domcus [Dominicus?] Vroda is godfather at Dolac on 27 Jan 1726; godfather (Magister Dominicus Vroda) 1 Jan and 23 Apr 1741; father, with a wife FLORIA, of Lucia (born 12 Dec 1744) and Vittoria (born 10 May 1745); godfather 27 Jun 1749, 20 Mar 1752 and 6 Jul 1755; on 4 Aug 1746 a witness Dominicus Vrodda, filius Magistri Georgii; on 13 Feb 1757 Dominicus filius qd. Georgij Vroda; on 11 Sep 1757 Dominicus Vroda Pictor (a painter); witness at Dolac marriages 11 Jan 1756, 11 Sep 1759 and 10 Aug 1762 and at the cathedral 3 Jun 1767. Two masters of the name seem to be mixed here: a Lucia ux. q. Mag. Dominici Vrodda, aged about 77, dies on 21 Jun 1746, so an ELDER Magister Dominicus was dead by then; the younger, son of Georgius, has an infant son Paulus buried 7 Jan 1744 — and at the cathedral: Joseph Joannes (born 16 Dec 1739, ceremonies 7 Jun 1740) and Anna (born May 1741; 6 Aug 1741), filius/filia Magistri Dominici et Florae Vroda, in no Dolac book Magister Dominicus Uroda (son of the late Georgius) 27 Jan 1726 [?]; 1741 – 3 Jun 1767 His son Joannes · 27 Sep 1757 — testibus Joseph Fevetti, et Joanne filio Dominici Uroda — a son of a Dominicus Uroda, of an age to witness His son Joannes 27 Sep 1757 Antonia Vrodda, wife of Joannes Mestrovich alias Calafat · 23 Oct 1746 — Mother of Franceschina, baptised at Dolac 23 October 1746 — an Uroda daughter, her father not named Antonia Vrodda, wife of Joannes Mestrovich alias Calafat 23 Oct 1746 Franciscus's daughter Antonia · 6 May 1742 — Georgius filius Joannis [Presrou?] de Flumine, alias Biliznich, et Antoniae filiae q. Francisci Vrodda de hac Parochia S. Marci — Antonia, a daughter of the late Franciscus Uroda, and her son Georgius BILIZNICH (not Uroda), born 17 April 1742 Franciscus's daughter Antonia 6 May 1742 Drniš — Caporal Pompeo Uroda × Maria Anna Bachi (soldiers) DOCUMENTED ON THE PAGES, 1770–1780 · THE 1771 ENTRY STILL INDEX ONLY · A SOLDIER'S HOUSEHOLD · NO TIE TO KARLOBAG SHOWN The Pompeo Uroda page → Soldiers of Drniš — A corporal of the Dalmatian garrison; a Šibenik-district name, but a district is not a link Soldiers of Drniš Josepha · 13 Mar 1770 — Josepha, born 1 March — Pampao Uroda and Mariana Bachi, Militum, godparents also soldiers (Franciscan Fr. Josephus Jakick) Josepha 13 Mar 1770 Dominica · 5 Apr 1771 — Dominica Oliva — the index reads Ganpas and Mariana Baich; the page not yet opened Dominica 5 Apr 1771 Julia · 26 Aug 1778 — Julia Magdalena — Caporal Pompeo Uroda and Maria Anna Bachi; the godfather a Serdar Julia 26 Aug 1778 Joseph · 23 Oct 1780 — Joseph — Domino Caporal Pompeo Uroda and Domina Maria Anna Bauchi; the index misreads the father as Tomaso Joseph 23 Oct 1780 Betina — Simeone Uroda and his sons DOCUMENTED ON THE PAGE FOR 1835 · NINETEENTH CENTURY · NO ORIGIN WRITTEN · NOT KNOWN TO TOUCH KARLOBAG The 1835 baptism → Simeone — Simeone is the commonest first name here, and the 1733 index line at Karlobag reads Sime Uroda — the same sort of name, not the same man Simeone Maria · 1829 — Maria, daughter of Pietro Urodan and Domenica Cucia Maria 1829 Andrea · 1835 — Andrea baptised 28 Nov — Simeone Uroda and Giovanna Barran, both a Betina; the printed Italian birth register of the Šibenik district (page read) Andrea 1835 Simeone's children · 1847–1854 — Simeone and Giovanna have children (Ghelttrada 1847, Andriana 1853, Giocomo 1854); Antonio × Anna 1849, Giovanni × Chetanina Magapin 1850 Simeone's children 1847–1854 father or namesake? — a candidate join, on evidence short of a document father or namesake? the 1742 son? — a candidate join, on evidence short of a document the 1742 son? same district — a candidate join, on evidence short of a document same district Real households of the name — not yet placed on any of these lines Attached to no line here — a different stock of a very common name — the commonest patronymic in Italy
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One spelling is not a search. The registers write Uroda, urode, vrode, Urodan, Urada; the index reads one Karlobag father as Sime, spells Dume's children Urode (so a search for Uroda misses them), and reads one Drniš father four ways (Janpao, Ganpas, Pompio, Tomaso) where the pages say Pampao and Pompeo. At Karlobag in 1734 a priest writes «Dume urode alliti Kovaca» — a by-name, a smith's — and before the 1730s the book has no Uroda at all, so a baptism of the man himself would sit under another surname. See The Second Name.

What each line stands on

Karlobag — Georgius × Maria (ours)

DOCUMENTED FROM 1763 · HIS BAPTISM, HIS PARENTS AND THEIR MARRIAGE NOT FOUND

  1. Godparents · 2 Nov 1763 — Georgius and Maria Uroda are godparents to a child of Paulus and Ursula Smojver — the first sight of them in a register
  2. 1st child · 6 May 1764 — Joannes Dominicus, their first child, baptised — godfather ANTONIO BARACH «OF ŠIBENIK» and Vincentia, wife of Joannes Margvart (re-read at 3x, 11 October 2026); the name Dominicus is the argument that Georgius's father was a Dominicus
  3. 8 children · 1764–1784 — Eight children in the index: Dominicus 1764, Petrus Jacobus 1767, Heva Joanna 1769, Maria Catharina 1772, Heva 1773, Joannes Georgius 1777, Anton Joannis 1780, Joannes 1784
  4. Joannes G. · 22 Apr 1777 — Joannes Georgius baptised — ahnentafel 54, with both parents named
  5. Death · 10 Sep 1791 — Dominus Georgius Uroda dies and is buried in his own crypt before the church doors — no age given
  6. Marriage · 17 Jun 1807 — Georgius, son of the late Georgius, marries Maria Gerkacs (ahnentafel 54 × 55)
  7. Matia 27 · 23 Apr 1810 — Matia baptised, ahnentafel 27 — whose daughter Matia Pilipić (13) is the mother of Josip Papić

The pages themselves: Godparents 1763 · Dominicus 1764 · Joannes Georgius 1777 · Death 1791 · Matia 1810

→ Papić, Josip b. 1857: Matia Uroda (27) → Matia Pilipić (13) → Josip Papić (6) → Milka (3) → Hedviga (1)

→ Brother Joannes?: Joannes, the 1784 child, married Maria Barletich in 1806; a Joannes Uroda × Maria baptise at Karlobag in 1810–11. Probably the same couple, not proved

→ Šibenik?: His first child's godfather, Antonio Barach, is «of Šibenik» — a thread to the Dalmatian town, not a descent

Karlobag — Dume Uroda «alias Kovaca» × Eva, then Jerolina

DOCUMENTED 1733–1750 · BAPTISM, PARENTS, MARRIAGES NOT FOUND · BY-NAME KOVAČ · LINK TO GEORGIUS NOT PROVED

  1. Antona · 16 Jan 1733 — Antona baptised to «Sime [or Dume?] Uroda» and Eva — the index reads Sime, the first letter is not firm
  2. Alias · 8 Mar 1734 — A child, Dominico as read, to «Dume Uroda alias Kovaca» — a smith's by-name — and Eva; first read as «Horaca», re-read at 3x as «kovaca»
  3. Eva · 12 Jan 1737 — Eva is godmother, «xena Dume urode» — one Eva, 1733 to 1739
  4. Franica · Dec 1739 — Franica, daughter of Dume Uroda and Eva
  5. Jerolina · 1742–1745 — Jerolina is his wife; a son in 1742 (name ends «Juria»), Giakova (Jakov) on 10 May 1744 as the index reads him, Marta on 11 Aug 1745, Lucia on 17 Dec 1746
  6. Witness · 1744–1749 — A witness at marriages about ten times, and the parish's commonest godparent with Jerolina
  7. Widow · Apr 1750 — Jerolima is «udova … Dume Uroda» — he died between December 1748 and April 1750 (no filmed death book)
  8. Daughters · 1755 · 1767 — Magdalena (1755) and Maria (1767, «of the late Dominicus») marry — daughters of a Dominicus Uroda, probably his

The pages themselves: Antona 1733 · Child 1734 · Eva 1737 · Franica 1739 · Son 1742 · Son 1744 · Daughter 1745 · Witness 1748 · Widow 1750 · Jure 1752 · Magdalena 1755 · Maria 1767

→ Georgius, ahn 108?: The 1742 son «… Juria» might be Georgius, and a Jure Uroda is godfather beside Dume's widow in 1752 — neither shows it

Šibenik (Dolac) — the name from 1687 to 1767; four households by 1692; Franciscus with Anna, a master by 1725; Georgius (b. 6 Oct 1694, son of Dominicus and Lucietta; d. 1754) and his son Dominicus, an elder Dominicus (dead by 1746), Antonius (m. Antonia 1718); a Joannes; the dead Dume of 1739

THE NAME AT DOLAC WITHOUT A BREAK 1687–1767 · FOUR HOUSEHOLDS BY 1692 · GEORGIUS (BAPTISED 10 OCT 1694 AT THE CATHEDRAL, SON OF DOMINICUS AND LUCIETTA; D. 17 AUG 1754) FATHER OF DOMINICUS · NO BAPTISM OF A GEORGIUS, DOMINICUS OR DUME IN ANY DOLAC BOOK 1685–1762 · NO LINK TO KARLOBAG

  1. Dominicus Vroda (wife Ursula) · 1687 – 1693 — Godfather 19 Apr 1687 and 22 Feb 1693; «Dominus Vrodich & Vrsula eius coniunx» Jan 1689; father of Lucia (31 Jul 1692) — the earliest Uroda in any Šibenik register; an Aurelia of 17 Sep 1693 (mother Silvia [?]) is doubtful
  2. Magister Dominicus Vrodda (wife Lucietta [Lucia]) — parents of Georgius · 10 Oct 1694; 14 [Oct] 1696 — Baptised at the cathedral for the Dolac parish: Georgius (born 6 Oct 1694) and Simeon (1696), «ex Coningibus Magistro Domco ac Lucia Vrodda». Lucia is very probably the Lucia, «ux. q. Mag: Dominici Vrodda», aged about 77, who died on 21 Jun 1746 — so this is the elder Magister Dominicus. Whether he is the Dominicus × Ursula of 1687–93 (a second marriage?) is not shown
  3. Thomas Vrodich (wife Catarina) · 1687 – 1692 — Godfather's wife Catarina in Apr 1687 and 17 Sep 1692; a daughter Justina, old enough to be a godmother, 2 Aug 1692
  4. Lucas Vrodi (wife Mariota) · 1692 – 1698 — Sons Antonius (6 Aug 1692) and Michael (13 Jul 1698) — the household of Simeon (1705) and Paulus Antonius (1710); a daughter Michaela baptised at the cathedral in Jan 1694 to «Magister Lucas and Maria Vrodal» (in no Dolac book)
  5. Paulus Vroda (wife Anastasia, later Stanislava [?]) · 1691 – 1695 — Godfather's wife Anastasia 2 Dec 1691; godfather with Stanislava [?] 24 Aug 1693; a «Stanca Vroda» godmother Jul 1695
  6. Joannes and Ursula Vroda · 1703 – 1705 — Sons Paulus (28 Jan 1703) and Antonius (31 May 1705) baptised in the Dolac parish — the earliest Uroda household met in any Šibenik register
  7. Lucas Vrodich · 27 Oct 1705; 16 Jan 1710 — Sons Simeon (1705) and Paulus Antonius (1710) baptised in the Dolac parish
  8. Thomas and Anastasia Vrodich · 14 May 1706 — Son Paulus baptised in the Dolac parish
  9. Antonius Vroda (dead by 1701) and his son Lucas · 13 Nov 1701 — Lucas, «filius qm Antonij Vroda», marries Francisca, daughter of the late Joannes Loveta — a father Antonius in the generation before the 1680s–90s households
  10. Thomas Vrodich marries Anastasia · 8 Jan 1702 — Thomas Vrodich, widowed of Catarina (1687, 1692) or a namesake, marries Anastasia — the mother of Paulus, baptised 1706
  11. Paulus Vrodich (dead by 1710) and his son Antonius · Oct 1710 — Antonius, «filius qdm Pauli Vrodich», marries the widow Anna — Paulus is the Paulus Vroda of 1691–95
  12. Magister Antonius Vroda (wife Antonia) · 1718 – 1742 — Antonius, son of Lucas Vrodich, marries Antonia on 30 Oct 1718; daughters Marietta (buried 18 Jan 1742) and Dominica (about 13, buried 19 Jul 1742) are «filia Magistri Antonij Vroda»
  13. Franciscus Vrodich [Urode] (wife Anna, later a Lucia?) · 1710 – 1721 — Son Paulus (23 Oct 1710), daughter Stanislava (21 Nov 1712) and son Franciscus Antonius (born 3 [Oct] 1721, «filius Francisci Urode et Annae») by Anna; daughter SIMONA (21 Oct 1715) by a «Lucia [?]» — the first Franciscus; the master Franciscus of 1725–38 (dead by 1742) is this man or his namesake son
  14. Georgius Urodich · 1715? – 1721 — Godfather «Georgius Urodich» at Dolac baptisms on 28 Jan 1720 and 27 Dec 1721, perhaps already «D. Georgius Vrodi[ch?]» on 28 Oct 1715 and the Magister Georgius of 1738 — one man or several is not shown
  15. Dume of Šibenik · before 1739 — Dume Uroda «od Šibenika» — Dalmatia — nothing else is known of him
  16. Simona marries · 7 Jun 1739 — Martin Svjata marries Simona, «pokoi[nog] Dume urode od Šibenika» — daughter of the late Dume Uroda of Šibenik
  17. Magister Franciscus Uroda · 19 Mar 1725 – 15 Nov 1738 — Godfather («Mr / Dñ Francus Vroda», nearly always beside an Angela Julioli) at Dolac baptisms on 19 Mar 1725, 6 Jul and 26 Oct 1728, 7 Jan, 23 Aug and 12 Sep 1729 and 12 Feb 1730, and again 25 Apr 1733, 30 Jan 1735 and, as «Magister», 12 Oct 1738. Dead by 6 May 1742, when his daughter Antonia, wife of a Joannes Biliznich, is called «filia q. Francisci Vrodda de hac Parochia S. Marci» — and dead on 15 Nov 1738 («Magister Franciscus Vroda», buried at the Holy Trinity)
  18. Georgius Uroda (Magister; born 6 Oct 1694, died 17 Aug 1754) · 1715? – 17 Aug 1754 — **Baptised in the cathedral on 10 Oct 1694, «ex Coniugibus Dominico et Lucietta Vroda»** — the age at death, «60», fits to the month. Godfather «Georgius Urodich» at Dolac 28 Jan 1720 and 27 Dec 1721 (perhaps already 28 Oct 1715); a master, already married, in 1738 («uxor Mri Georgij Vroda»; his wife is not named Maria); ALIVE on 4 Aug 1746, when «Dominico Vrodda, filio Magistri Georgii» is a witness; and DEAD by 13 Feb 1757, when his son Dominicus is called «filius qd. Georgij Vroda»; very probably the «Dominus Georgius Vroda aetatis annorum 60» who died on 17 Aug 1754 and was buried at S. Dominic; a daughter Magdalena, «filia Magistri Georgii Vrode», was buried 29 Oct 1740
  19. Magister Dominicus Uroda (son of the late Georgius) · 27 Jan 1726 [?]; 1741 – 3 Jun 1767 — A «Mr. Domcus [Dominicus?] Vroda» is godfather at Dolac on 27 Jan 1726; godfather («Magister Dominicus Vroda») 1 Jan and 23 Apr 1741; father, with a wife FLORIA, of Lucia (born 12 Dec 1744) and Vittoria (born 10 May 1745); godfather 27 Jun 1749, 20 Mar 1752 and 6 Jul 1755; on 4 Aug 1746 a witness «Dominicus Vrodda, filius Magistri Georgii»; on 13 Feb 1757 «Dominicus filius qd. Georgij Vroda»; on 11 Sep 1757 «Dominicus Vroda Pictor» (a painter); witness at Dolac marriages 11 Jan 1756, 11 Sep 1759 and 10 Aug 1762 and at the cathedral 3 Jun 1767. Two masters of the name seem to be mixed here: a Lucia «ux. q. Mag. Dominici Vrodda», aged about 77, dies on 21 Jun 1746, so an ELDER Magister Dominicus was dead by then; the younger, son of Georgius, has an infant son Paulus buried 7 Jan 1744 — and at the cathedral: Joseph Joannes (born 16 Dec 1739, ceremonies 7 Jun 1740) and Anna (born May 1741; 6 Aug 1741), «filius/filia Magistri Dominici et Florae Vroda», in no Dolac book
  20. His son Joannes · 27 Sep 1757 — «testibus Joseph Fevetti, et Joanne filio Dominici Uroda» — a son of a Dominicus Uroda, of an age to witness
  21. Antonia Vrodda, wife of Joannes Mestrovich alias Calafat · 23 Oct 1746 — Mother of Franceschina, baptised at Dolac 23 October 1746 — an Uroda daughter, her father not named
  22. Franciscus's daughter Antonia · 6 May 1742 — «Georgius filius Joannis [Presrou?] de Flumine, alias Biliznich, et Antoniae filiae q. Francisci Vrodda de hac Parochia S. Marci» — Antonia, a daughter of the late Franciscus Uroda, and her son Georgius BILIZNICH (not Uroda), born 17 April 1742

The pages themselves: Cathedral baptism Jun 1740 (Joseph Joannes, son of Magister Dominicus and Flora Vroda) · Cathedral baptism Aug 1741 (Anna, daughter of Magister Dominicus and Flora Vroda) · Cathedral baptism 10 Oct 1694 (Georgius, son of Dominicus and Lucietta Vroda) · Cathedral baptism Oct 1696 (Simeon, son of Magister Dominicus and Lucia Vrodda) · Cathedral baptism Jan 1694 (Michaela, daughter of Magister Lucas and Maria Vroda) · Dolac baptism 1687 (Dominicus Vroda and Catarina, wife of Thomas Vrodich) · Dolac baptism 1689 (Dominus Vrodich and Ursula) · Dolac baptism 1691 (Anastasia, wife of Paulus Vroda) · Dolac baptism 1692 (Lucia, daughter of Dominicus Vrodi and Ursula) · Dolac baptism Aug 1692 (Justina, daughter of Thomas Vroda) · Dolac baptism Aug 1692 (Antonius, son of Lucas Vrodi) · Dolac baptism Sep 1692 (Catharina, wife of Thomas Vroda) · Dolac baptism 1693 (Dominicus Vrodi godfather) · Dolac baptism Aug 1693 (Paulus Vroda and wife) · Dolac baptism Sep 1693 (Aurelia; doubtful) · Dolac baptism 1695 (Stanca Vroda) · Dolac baptism 1698 (Michael, son of Lucas and Marieta Vrodich) · Dolac baptism 1703 (Joannes and Ursula) · Dolac baptism 1705 (Joannes and Ursula) · Dolac baptism 1705 (Lucas) · Dolac baptism 1706 (Thomas and Anastasia) · Dolac baptism 1710 (Lucas) · Dolac baptism 1710 (Franciscus) · Dolac baptism 1712 (Franciscus) · Dolac baptism 1715 (Franciscus) · The 1739 marriage · Dolac marriage 1756 · Dolac marriage 1757 (his son Joannes) · Dolac marriage 1759 · Dolac marriage 1762 · Cathedral marriage 1767 · Dolac baptism 1733 (Franciscus) · Dolac baptism 1735 (Franciscus) · Dolac baptism 1738 (Georgius's wife) · Dolac baptism 1738 (Franciscus) · Dolac baptism 1741 (Dominicus) · Dolac baptism 1741 April (Dominicus) · Dolac baptism 1742 (Franciscus's daughter) · Dolac baptism 1720 (Georgius Urodich godfather) · Dolac baptism 1721 (Franciscus Antonius, son of Franciscus Urode and Anna) · Dolac baptism 1721 (Georgius Urodich godfather) · Dolac baptism 1725 (Magister Franciscus Vroda) · Dolac baptism 1726 (Mr. Dominicus [?] Vroda) · Dolac baptism July 1728 (Franciscus Vroda) · Dolac baptism October 1728 (Franciscus Vroda) · Dolac baptism January 1729 (Franciscus Vroda) · Dolac baptism August 1729 (Franciscus Vroda) · Dolac baptism September 1729 (Franciscus Vroda) · Dolac baptism 1730 (Franciscus Vroda) · Dolac baptism 1744 (Lucia, daughter of Magister Dominicus and Floria Vroda) · Dolac baptism 1745 (Vittoria, daughter of Dominicus and Floria Vrodda) · Dolac baptism 1746 (Franceschina; mother Antonia Vrodda) · Dolac baptism 1749 (Dominicus Vroda godfather) · Dolac baptism 1752 (Dominicus Uroda godfather) · Dolac baptism 1755 (Dominicus Vroda assistens) · Dolac baptism Feb 1757 (Dominicus, son of the late Georgius Vroda) · Dolac baptism Sep 1757 (Dominicus Vroda Pictor) · Dolac marriage 1701 (Lucas, son of the late Antonius Vroda) · Dolac marriage 1702 (Thomas Vrodich and Anastasia) · Dolac marriage 1710 (Antonius, son of the late Paulus Vrodich) · Dolac marriage 1717 (witness Franciscus Vrodich; doubtful) · Dolac marriage 1718 (Antonius, son of Lucas Vrodich) · Dolac marriage 1725 (witness Franco Vroda) · Dolac marriage 1739 (witness Mro Domco Vroda) · Dolac marriage Aug 1746 (witness Dominicus Vrodda, son of Magister Georgius) · Dolac death 1740 (Magdalena, daughter of Magister Georgius Vrode) · Dolac death Jan 1742 (Marietta, daughter of Magister Antonius Vroda) · Dolac death Jul 1742 (Dominica, daughter of Magister Antonius and Antonia Vrodda) · Dolac death 1744 (Paulus, infant son of Magister Dominicus and Floria Vrodda) · Dolac death 1746 (Lucia, wife of the late Magister Dominicus Vrodda) · Dolac death 1754 (Dominus Georgius Vroda, aged 60) · Dolac death 1738 (Magister Franciscus Vroda)

→ Georgius's father?: **At Šibenik the father is now found: Georgius (b. 6 Oct 1694, d. 17 Aug 1754) was the son of the Magister Dominicus and Lucietta Vroda of the Dolac parish, baptised at the cathedral.** That Georgius died in 1754; Georgius Uroda of Karlobag (ahnentafel 108) was alive from 1763 to 1791, so he is not the Šibenik Georgius — he named his first son Dominicus in 1764, as the Šibenik Georgius did, which keeps the name pattern but proves nothing. Georgius Uroda of Karlobag (ahnentafel 108) named his first son Dominicus in 1764. At Šibenik a Dominicus Uroda, a master, is «filius Magistri Georgii» (4 Aug 1746) and «filius qd. Georgij Vroda» (13 Feb 1757) — a Magister Georgius, alive in 1746 and dead by 1757, and a Dominicus. If Georgius of Karlobag is a son of that Dominicus he is named for his grandfather and his first son for his father; that is a pattern in the names, not a document, and none of the three Dolac baptism books (1685–1762) holds a baptism of him. There was also a Magister Georgius Uroda at Šibenik, married, in 1738: the Georgius of Karlobag cannot be that man if he first fathered a child in 1764, but he could be a grandson or a namesake. The Šibenik Georgius died on 17 August 1754 (aged about 60), so he is not the Karlobag Georgius, who is alive from 1763 to 1791; and the Šibenik Georgius's son Dominicus has only daughters and an infant Paulus in the Dolac books, no Georgius

→ Dume's sons?: The dead Dume of Šibenik (d. before 1739) is the one Šibenik Uroda with a recorded child (the bride Simona of 1739); Franciscus, Georgius and Dominicus, masters of the same years, are candidates for his sons, but no register read says so — and the one father named at Šibenik is «Georgius» (1757), not Dume

Drniš — Caporal Pompeo Uroda × Maria Anna Bachi (soldiers)

DOCUMENTED ON THE PAGES, 1770–1780 · THE 1771 ENTRY STILL INDEX ONLY · A SOLDIER'S HOUSEHOLD · NO TIE TO KARLOBAG SHOWN

  1. Josepha · 13 Mar 1770 — Josepha, born 1 March — «Pampao Uroda» and Mariana Bachi, «Militum», godparents also soldiers (Franciscan Fr. Josephus Jakick)
  2. Dominica · 5 Apr 1771 — Dominica Oliva — the index reads «Ganpas» and Mariana Baich; the page not yet opened
  3. Julia · 26 Aug 1778 — Julia Magdalena — «Caporal Pompeo Uroda» and Maria Anna Bachi; the godfather a Serdar
  4. Joseph · 23 Oct 1780 — Joseph — «Domino Caporal Pompeo Uroda» and Domina Maria Anna Bauchi; the index misreads the father as Tomaso

The pages themselves: Josepha 1770 · Julia Magdalena 1778 · Joseph 1780

→ Soldiers of Drniš: A corporal of the Dalmatian garrison; a Šibenik-district name, but a district is not a link

Betina — Simeone Uroda and his sons

DOCUMENTED ON THE PAGE FOR 1835 · NINETEENTH CENTURY · NO ORIGIN WRITTEN · NOT KNOWN TO TOUCH KARLOBAG

  1. Maria · 1829 — Maria, daughter of Pietro «Urodan» and Domenica Cucia
  2. Andrea · 1835 — Andrea baptised 28 Nov — Simeone Uroda and Giovanna Barran, both «a Betina»; the printed Italian birth register of the Šibenik district (page read)
  3. Simeone's children · 1847–1854 — Simeone and Giovanna have children (Ghelttrada 1847, Andriana 1853, Giocomo 1854); Antonio × Anna 1849, Giovanni × Chetanina Magapin 1850

The pages themselves: Andrea 1835

→ Simeone: «Simeone» is the commonest first name here, and the 1733 index line at Karlobag reads «Sime» Uroda — the same sort of name, not the same man

Households of the name, not yet on any lane

Attached to no line here

What this name still owes. For Uroda that is: Dume's baptism (likely under the by-name Kovač, in the 1700s), the marriage of Georgius and Maria (not in Karlobag's marriage book 1736–1804, not in the index under any «Urod*» spelling, not in the Šibenik cathedral marriage book 1752–1770 nor the Dolac parish marriage book 1752–1764, both read entry by entry; perhaps Varoš before 1764, whose book begins only that year, or a place not filmed), Maria's maiden name (Barach, of Šibenik, is the best candidate — her first child's godfather), and the Šibenik baptisms themselves: all three Dolac baptism books (1685–1700, 1701–1731 and 1731–1762) are now read through — no baptism of a Georgius, Dominicus or Dume Uroda, but a Dominicus «son of Magister Georgius» (1746, the Dolac marriage book) and «son of the late Georgius» (1757); the Dolac marriage book 1701–1764 is read to its end (no marriage of Georgius, Dominicus or Dume); the Dolac deaths book is read for September 1738 – March 1756 (Franciscus died 15 Nov 1738) (Georgius died 17 August 1754; a Magister Antonius with daughters buried 1742; a Lucia, widow of a Magister Dominicus, 1746) but not for 1738–1740, 1754–1757 or before 1738; the cathedral births are read only as a margin scan for 1693–1702 (which found Georgius's own baptism, 6 Oct 1694, and his brother Simeon) and 1737–1744 (which found two more children of Dominicus and Flora); still to read are the cathedral births 1702–1737 and after 1740 and before 1693, and the Varoš births (1711–1767), where the baptism of a Georgius or a Dominicus, or of a «Georgius filius Dominici», would say whose son Georgius of Karlobag is (the Betina and Drniš ones have been opened and are other families).
Smojver — Karlobag and Cesarica

Smojver

At Karlobag the name is written in two ways, with and without the by-name «Vukić», and a second large body of the exact spelling sits at Cesarica. Only the Vukić line is ours; the others are drawn apart until a register joins them.

Six families of one surname, and the road each of them took Karlobag — Smojver called «Vukić» (ours) DOCUMENTED 1754–1798 · THE FATHER'S BAPTISM (1731) NOT YET READ The Smojver pages → Pilipić, Vicko b. 1805 — Oliva Maria (53) → Vicko Pilipić (26) → Matia (13) → Josip Papić (6) → Milka → Hedviga Pilipić, Vicko b. 1805 Josiph · 1731 — Josiph Smojver, called Vukić, born (the tree's year; his baptism is on the Karlobag films and not yet read) Josiph 1731 Vicentius · 18 Jan 1754 — Vicentius Fabianus Smojver Vukić born — ahnentafel 106 Vicentius 18 Jan 1754 Marriage · 2 May 1774 — Vincentius Smojver Vukich marries Oliva, daughter of the late Caetanus Bacchi (ahnentafel 106 × 107) Marriage 2 May 1774 Death · 16 May 1776 — Josephus Smojver, called Vukcich, dies aged 45 — ahnentafel 212 Death 16 May 1776 Oliva Maria · Mar 1781 — Oliva Maria baptised, daughter of Vincentius Smojver Vukich and Oliva — ahnentafel 53 Oliva Maria Mar 1781 Marriage · 14 Feb 1798 — Josephus Pilepich, widower, marries Maria, daughter of Vincentius — probably Oliva Maria Marriage 14 Feb 1798 Karlobag — Paulus Smojver × Ursula (no «Vukić» written) DOCUMENTED IN TWO ENTRIES, 1763 AND 1780 · THE HOUSEHOLD NOT FOLLOWED The 1763 baptism → Same house as the Vukić — Neither entry writes Vukić; whether Paulus belongs to that house is not shown Same house as the Vukić Carolus · 2 Nov 1763 — Carolus baptised, son of Paulus and Ursula Smojver; Georgius and Maria Uroda are the godparents Carolus 2 Nov 1763 Vitus · 17 May 1780 — Vitus baptised, son of Paulo and Barbara Smojver, hujus Civitatis — Paulus again, with a wife Barbara where 1763 has Ursula Vitus 17 May 1780 Cesarica — Smojver, 1810–1858 (index only) INDEX ONLY · 138 LINES UNDER THE EXACT SPELLING · NOT OPENED · NO TIE TO KARLOBAG SHOWN Where it was found → Cesarica — A village a short way up the coast from Karlobag; the same name, in the same district Cesarica Cesarica · 1810 — The earliest of 138 index lines at Cesarica under the exact spelling Smojver Cesarica 1810 Cesarica · 1858 — The latest — the index runs to 1858 there Cesarica 1858 same house? — a candidate join, on evidence short of a document same house? same name, same district — a candidate join, on evidence short of a document same name, same district Real households of the name — not yet placed on any of these lines Attached to no line here — a different stock of a very common name — the commonest patronymic in Italy
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Why two lanes at Karlobag. The tree's Smojver are called Vukić in the marriage of 1774 and the baptism of 1781 («Smojver Vukich»), and the 1776 death says «called Vukcich». The Paulus Smojver who baptises in 1763 is written without it. A by-name marks which house of a surname is meant (see The Second Name), so the two are kept apart until something says Paulus is a Vukić too.

What each line stands on

Karlobag — Smojver called «Vukić» (ours)

DOCUMENTED 1754–1798 · THE FATHER'S BAPTISM (1731) NOT YET READ

  1. Josiph · 1731 — Josiph Smojver, called Vukić, born (the tree's year; his baptism is on the Karlobag films and not yet read)
  2. Vicentius · 18 Jan 1754 — Vicentius Fabianus Smojver Vukić born — ahnentafel 106
  3. Marriage · 2 May 1774 — Vincentius Smojver «Vukich» marries Oliva, daughter of the late Caetanus Bacchi (ahnentafel 106 × 107)
  4. Death · 16 May 1776 — Josephus Smojver, called Vukcich, dies aged 45 — ahnentafel 212
  5. Oliva Maria · Mar 1781 — Oliva Maria baptised, daughter of Vincentius Smojver «Vukich» and Oliva — ahnentafel 53
  6. Marriage · 14 Feb 1798 — Josephus Pilepich, widower, marries Maria, daughter of Vincentius — probably Oliva Maria

The pages themselves: Marriage 1774 · Death 1776 · Oliva Maria 1781 · Marriage 1798

→ Pilipić, Vicko b. 1805: Oliva Maria (53) → Vicko Pilipić (26) → Matia (13) → Josip Papić (6) → Milka → Hedviga

Karlobag — Paulus Smojver × Ursula (no «Vukić» written)

DOCUMENTED IN TWO ENTRIES, 1763 AND 1780 · THE HOUSEHOLD NOT FOLLOWED

  1. Carolus · 2 Nov 1763 — Carolus baptised, son of Paulus and Ursula Smojver; Georgius and Maria Uroda are the godparents
  2. Vitus · 17 May 1780 — Vitus baptised, son of Paulo and Barbara Smojver, «hujus Civitatis» — Paulus again, with a wife Barbara where 1763 has Ursula

The pages themselves: Godparents 1763 · Vitus 1780

→ Same house as the Vukić?: Neither entry writes «Vukić»; whether Paulus belongs to that house is not shown

Cesarica — Smojver, 1810–1858 (index only)

INDEX ONLY · 138 LINES UNDER THE EXACT SPELLING · NOT OPENED · NO TIE TO KARLOBAG SHOWN

  1. Cesarica · 1810 — The earliest of 138 index lines at Cesarica under the exact spelling «Smojver»
  2. Cesarica · 1858 — The latest — the index runs to 1858 there

→ Cesarica: A village a short way up the coast from Karlobag; the same name, in the same district

Households of the name, not yet on any lane

  • Early Smojver households at Karlobag, 1718–1746 (index only) — Duim Smojver baptises Marta 1718, Jakov 1721, Martha 1725 and Anica 1735; Marko in 1729; an Osip Smojver and Franica baptise Francisko on 25 Oct 1733; Pavle and Anica baptise Marica in 1737; Morko, Adam in 1746. Households of the name before the «Vukić» Josiph (b. about 1731) and Paulus (1763) — none shown to be his parents. The Osip of 1733 cannot be the Josiph who died aged 45 in 1776
  • Smojver at Vitipolis, Jablanac, Fiume and Senj, 1845–1906 — Forty-odd index lines in later decades, all after 1845: households that moved, probably out of the Karlobag–Cesarica stock, but not shown to
What this name still owes. For Smojver that is: Josiph's baptism of 1731, whether Paulus is a Vukić, and whether the Cesarica Smojver came from Karlobag or the other way (the Cesarica index lines begin in 1810 and the Karlobag ones in 1768, which may only mean that Cesarica's books are indexed from 1810).
Pilipić — Karlobag, Vitipolis, Rijeka

Pilipić

The name is written Pilepich, Pilipich and Pilipić, and the index has it by the thousand in the Rijeka–Kastav area and at «Vitipolis». Only the Karlobag line of Jacobus, captain of the port, is ours.

Six families of one surname, and the road each of them took Karlobag — Jacobus Pilepich, captain of the port (ours) DOCUMENTED FROM 1747 · NO PILIPIĆ BAPTISM AT KARLOBAG BEFORE 1739 · ORIGIN UNPROVED, KASTAV THE CANDIDATE The Karlobag pages → Senj — Vicko Pilepić (26) dies at Senj in 1897, a retired financial guard; his daughter's line is Papić Senj Kastav — Two Jacobus Pilepich were baptised at Kastav: 5 Jul 1705 (son of Georgius and Ursula) and 25 Jun 1708 (son of Martin and Margarita). Either would be 39–42 at the 1747 marriage — a candidate for the captain, index only, no Karlobag entry names his origin Kastav Jakov · 30 [Oct/Nov] 1739 — A Jakov (Jakomo) Pilipić baptises a Jakov at Karlobag — the first Pilipić in a Karlobag baptism (index); the captain's marriage to Katta is 1747, his children 1748–56 (Matia Simuna, Lucia, Maria Vicenza, Andria Mikula, Karla Adelbrand) — read from the page: godparents the gentry (Zorović; the wife of Antun Dorliga), no mother named Jakov 30 [Oct/Nov] 1739 Marriage · 22 Nov 1747 — Jakov Pilepich marries Katta, daughter of the late Vicko Luckinich Marriage 22 Nov 1747 Josephus · 11 Mar 1768 — Josephus born — ahnentafel 52 Josephus 11 Mar 1768 Jacobus d. · 10 Apr 1778 — Jacobus Pilepich, captain of the port, buried in his own crypt — ahnentafel 104 Jacobus d. 10 Apr 1778 Catherina d. · 29 May 1790 — Catharina, aged 70, widow of the late Jacob Pilepich — ahnentafel 105 Catherina d. 29 May 1790 Marriage · 14 Feb 1798 — Josephus Pilepich, widower, marries Maria, daughter of Vincentius (probably Oliva Maria Smojver) Marriage 14 Feb 1798 Josephus d. · 28 Jun 1828 — Josephus Pilepich dies, aged 61 Josephus d. 28 Jun 1828 Matia · 18 Sep 1838 — Matthea baptised, daughter of the chamber shipmaster Vincentius Pilipich and Mathea Uroda — ahnentafel 13 Matia 18 Sep 1838 Real households of the name — not yet placed on any of these lines Attached to no line here — a different stock of a very common name — the commonest patronymic in Italy
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Why only one lane. The index has well over a thousand lines of the name, but every cluster outside Karlobag is a body of index lines, not a family anyone has followed. They are listed below the figure as not yet on any lane rather than drawn as families: a lane is a household the registers show, and these have not been shown.

What each line stands on

Karlobag — Jacobus Pilepich, captain of the port (ours)

DOCUMENTED FROM 1747 · NO PILIPIĆ BAPTISM AT KARLOBAG BEFORE 1739 · ORIGIN UNPROVED, KASTAV THE CANDIDATE

  1. Jakov · 30 [Oct/Nov] 1739 — A Jakov (Jakomo) Pilipić baptises a Jakov at Karlobag — the first Pilipić in a Karlobag baptism (index); the captain's marriage to Katta is 1747, his children 1748–56 (Matia Simuna, Lucia, Maria Vicenza, Andria Mikula, Karla Adelbrand) — read from the page: godparents the gentry (Zorović; the wife of Antun Dorliga), no mother named
  2. Marriage · 22 Nov 1747 — Jakov Pilepich marries Katta, daughter of the late Vicko Luckinich
  3. Josephus · 11 Mar 1768 — Josephus born — ahnentafel 52
  4. Jacobus d. · 10 Apr 1778 — Jacobus Pilepich, captain of the port, buried in his own crypt — ahnentafel 104
  5. Catherina d. · 29 May 1790 — Catharina, aged 70, widow of the late Jacob Pilepich — ahnentafel 105
  6. Marriage · 14 Feb 1798 — Josephus Pilepich, widower, marries Maria, daughter of Vincentius (probably Oliva Maria Smojver)
  7. Josephus d. · 28 Jun 1828 — Josephus Pilepich dies, aged 61
  8. Matia · 18 Sep 1838 — Matthea baptised, daughter of the chamber shipmaster Vincentius Pilipich and Mathea Uroda — ahnentafel 13

The pages themselves: Jakomo 1739 · Marriage 1747 · Death 1778 · Death 1790 · Marriage 1798 · Death 1828 · Matia 1838 · Vicko 1897

→ Senj: Vicko Pilepić (26) dies at Senj in 1897, a retired financial guard; his daughter's line is Papić

→ Kastav?: Two Jacobus Pilepich were baptised at Kastav: 5 Jul 1705 (son of Georgius and Ursula) and 25 Jun 1708 (son of Martin and Margarita). Either would be 39–42 at the 1747 marriage — a candidate for the captain, index only, no Karlobag entry names his origin

Households of the name, not yet on any lane

What this name still owes. For Pilipić that is: the captain's baptism (not at Karlobag: the index has no Pilipić baptism there before 1739, and 1700–1730 holds none under any spelling — so probably at Kastav or Rijeka, where two Jacobus Pilepich of 1705 and 1708 are the candidates), whether the Jakov of 1739 is he, and a second family of the name at Karlobag before anyone is called a stranger to it.
Bacchi — Karlobag, Pag, Drniš

Bacchi

A rare name, and the one with the best lead on this site: a Caietanus Bachi baptised at Pag in 1728, the son of a patrician, who may be the Caetanus who married at Karlobag in 1753.

Six families of one surname, and the road each of them took Karlobag — Caetanus Bachi × Anna Lukatelli (ours) DOCUMENTED 1753–1774 · HIS ORIGIN NOT NAMED IN ANY KARLOBAG ENTRY The Bacchi reading → Smojver Vukić — Oliva (107) → Oliva Maria Smojver (53) → the Pilipić line Smojver Vukić A Bachi at Karlobag already in 1715 — A son Luca baptised in October 1715 to a Mikule Bach[…] — the index reads Bachi??, the page cuts the word and shows a struck-out first spelling, so it may be Bačić. If it is Bachi, Caetanus (1753) need not have come from Pag. Not proved either way. A Bachi at Karlobag already in 1715 Marriage · 4 Feb 1753 — Caetanus Bachi marries Anna, daughter of the late Alexius Lukatelli Marriage 4 Feb 1753 Sponsors · 18 Mar 1753 — Caietan Bachi and his wife Anna stand sponsors Sponsors 18 Mar 1753 Silvester · Jan 1754 — A son, Silvester, baptised Silvester Jan 1754 Widow · 20 Oct 1760 — Anna, widow of Caetanus Bachi, marries Paulus Perpich — he is dead by then Widow 20 Oct 1760 Oliva · 2 May 1774 — Oliva, daughter of the late Caetanus Bacchi, marries Vincentius Smojver Vukich — ahnentafel 107 Oliva 2 May 1774 Pag — Dno Angelo Bachi, patrician DOCUMENTED ON THE PAGE FOR 1728 · THE OTHER PAG ENTRIES INDEX ONLY The 1728 baptism → Caetanus of Karlobag — Same rare given name, the right age (24 in 1753) and a Karlobag daughter called OLIVA like the Pag mother — but no Karlobag entry names his father or his birthplace Caetanus of Karlobag Anna Maria · 21 Jul 1725 — Anna Maria baptised, daughter of Angelo Bachi and Oliva (index) Anna Maria 21 Jul 1725 Caietanus · 14 Mar 1728 — Caietanus Antonius Gregorius baptised, son of Dno Angelo Bachi, Patricio, and Dna Oliva — read from the page Caietanus 14 Mar 1728 Oliva d. · 9 Dec 1730 — Oliva, wife of Angelo Bachi, buried (index); Angelo has Maria Elisabet 1732, Giones Antonius 1735 and Francisca 1737 by Hijeronima Oliva d. 9 Dec 1730 Angelo d. (apothecary) · 19 Jan 1764 — Dnus Angelus Bacchi Aromatarius, aged about 68 — read from the page; born about 1696, the age of the Pag father of 1728. Names no son Angelo d. (apothecary) 19 Jan 1764 Antonius · 1764–1778 — Anto/Antonius Bachi × Cecilia baptise Hieronyma 1766, Angelus 1768, Joannes Andreas 1774; Antonius buried 1778 (index) Antonius 1764–1778 Bachi at Nin · 1768–1787 — Dna Viena Bachi buried 6 Oct 1768 (read from the page); Elisabetta 1777 and Antonio 1787 in the same register (index) — the mainland coast across from Pag; not shown to be the same family Bachi at Nin 1768–1787 Karlobag — Angelo Bachi × Catharina (1779) DOCUMENTED IN ONE ENTRY · THE TREE'S ANGELO COMES FROM HERE ONLY · NOT SHOWN TO BE RELATED TO CAETANUS The 1779 baptism → Named for the Pag Caietanus — Caetanus Antonius is the Pag child's name of 1728 almost exactly; a family naming a boy after a dead uncle or father would do that — a question, not a finding Named for the Pag Caietanus Caetanus A. · 12 Jan 1779 — Caetanus Antonius baptised, son of Angelo and Catharina Bachi — godparents the Captain Joannes Jankovich and Maria, wife of Dno Georgius Uroda Caetanus A. 12 Jan 1779 Drniš — Mariana Bachi, wife of Caporal Pompeo Uroda DOCUMENTED ON THE PAGES, 1770–1780 · SHE IS A SOLDIER'S WIFE The Drniš pages → A Bachi of Pag — A Dalmatian town and a Dalmatian garrison; the same rare name, nothing more A Bachi of Pag Josepha · 13 Mar 1770 — Mariana Bachi and Pampao Uroda, Militum, baptise Josepha Josepha 13 Mar 1770 Julia · 26 Aug 1778 — Maria Anna Bachi and Caporal Pompeo Uroda Julia 26 Aug 1778 Joseph · 23 Oct 1780 — Domina Maria Anna Bauchi and Caporal Pompeo Uroda Joseph 23 Oct 1780 1728 = 1753? — a candidate join, on evidence short of a document 1728 = 1753? same name again — a candidate join, on evidence short of a document same name again Real households of the name — not yet placed on any of these lines Attached to no line here — a different stock of a very common name — the commonest patronymic in Italy
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What the 1728 page does and does not say. It names a child Caietanus Antonius ac Gregorius, born 12 March 1728, to Dno Angelo Bachi, Patricio and Dna Oliva, at Pag. On the Karlobag side everything is circumstance — the rare name, the age, a daughter called Oliva like the Pag mother. And the tree's Angelo (ahnentafel 428) is not evidence: he and his Catharina come only from a different baptism, of 12 January 1779, of a Caetanus Antonius at Karlobag whose godmother is Maria Uroda — a second Bachi household in the town, which the tree has wrongly welded onto the elder Caetanus. So the Pag baptism is a candidate, strong and unproved, and the 1779 household a separate lane.

What each line stands on

Karlobag — Caetanus Bachi × Anna Lukatelli (ours)

DOCUMENTED 1753–1774 · HIS ORIGIN NOT NAMED IN ANY KARLOBAG ENTRY

  1. Marriage · 4 Feb 1753 — Caetanus Bachi marries Anna, daughter of the late Alexius Lukatelli
  2. Sponsors · 18 Mar 1753 — «Caietan Bachi» and his wife Anna stand sponsors
  3. Silvester · Jan 1754 — A son, Silvester, baptised
  4. Widow · 20 Oct 1760 — Anna, widow of Caetanus Bachi, marries Paulus Perpich — he is dead by then
  5. Oliva · 2 May 1774 — Oliva, daughter of the late Caetanus Bacchi, marries Vincentius Smojver «Vukich» — ahnentafel 107

The pages themselves: Marriage 1753 · Sponsors 1753 · Silvester 1754 · Widow 1760 · Marriage 1774 · Karlobag baptism 1715 (Luca, son of Mikule Bach[…])

→ Smojver Vukić: Oliva (107) → Oliva Maria Smojver (53) → the Pilipić line

→ A Bachi at Karlobag already in 1715?: A son Luca baptised in October 1715 to a «Mikule Bach[…]» — the index reads «Bachi??», the page cuts the word and shows a struck-out first spelling, so it may be Bačić. If it is Bachi, Caetanus (1753) need not have come from Pag. Not proved either way.

Pag — Dno Angelo Bachi, patrician

DOCUMENTED ON THE PAGE FOR 1728 · THE OTHER PAG ENTRIES INDEX ONLY

  1. Anna Maria · 21 Jul 1725 — Anna Maria baptised, daughter of Angelo Bachi and Oliva (index)
  2. Caietanus · 14 Mar 1728 — Caietanus Antonius Gregorius baptised, son of Dno Angelo Bachi, Patricio, and Dna Oliva — read from the page
  3. Oliva d. · 9 Dec 1730 — Oliva, wife of Angelo Bachi, buried (index); Angelo has Maria Elisabet 1732, Giones Antonius 1735 and Francisca 1737 by Hijeronima
  4. Angelo d. (apothecary) · 19 Jan 1764 — «Dnus Angelus Bacchi Aromatarius», aged about 68 — read from the page; born about 1696, the age of the Pag father of 1728. Names no son
  5. Antonius · 1764–1778 — Anto/Antonius Bachi × Cecilia baptise Hieronyma 1766, Angelus 1768, Joannes Andreas 1774; Antonius buried 1778 (index)
  6. Bachi at Nin · 1768–1787 — Dna Viena Bachi buried 6 Oct 1768 (read from the page); Elisabetta 1777 and Antonio 1787 in the same register (index) — the mainland coast across from Pag; not shown to be the same family

The pages themselves: Caietanus 1728 · Pag death 1764 (Angelus Bacchi, apothecary) · Nin death 1768 (Dna Viena Bachi)

→ Caetanus of Karlobag?: Same rare given name, the right age (24 in 1753) and a Karlobag daughter called OLIVA like the Pag mother — but no Karlobag entry names his father or his birthplace

Karlobag — Angelo Bachi × Catharina (1779)

DOCUMENTED IN ONE ENTRY · THE TREE'S ANGELO COMES FROM HERE ONLY · NOT SHOWN TO BE RELATED TO CAETANUS

  1. Caetanus A. · 12 Jan 1779 — Caetanus Antonius baptised, son of Angelo and Catharina Bachi — godparents the Captain Joannes Jankovich and Maria, wife of Dno Georgius Uroda

The pages themselves: Caetanus Antonius 1779

→ Named for the Pag Caietanus?: Caetanus Antonius is the Pag child's name of 1728 almost exactly; a family naming a boy after a dead uncle or father would do that — a question, not a finding

Drniš — Mariana Bachi, wife of Caporal Pompeo Uroda

DOCUMENTED ON THE PAGES, 1770–1780 · SHE IS A SOLDIER'S WIFE

  1. Josepha · 13 Mar 1770 — Mariana Bachi and Pampao Uroda, «Militum», baptise Josepha
  2. Julia · 26 Aug 1778 — Maria Anna Bachi and Caporal Pompeo Uroda
  3. Joseph · 23 Oct 1780 — Domina Maria Anna Bauchi and Caporal Pompeo Uroda

The pages themselves: Josepha 1770 · Julia Magdalena 1778 · Joseph 1780

→ A Bachi of Pag?: A Dalmatian town and a Dalmatian garrison; the same rare name, nothing more

Attached to no line here

What this name still owes. For Bacchi that is: a Karlobag entry that names Caetanus's father or his town (the marriage of 1753 does not), his death before October 1760 (Karlobag's death book begins in 1774, so that is not filmed), and the Pag baptisms of his siblings read from the pages, not the index.
What each lane owes. A lane carries three things: what is documented, what is inferred, and what would have to be found to join it to another. The full list is on the work list. A surname with no second family yet — Gerkacs at Karlobag, Luckinić — gets a lane the day a second family of the name is met, not before.